Not trying to be cagey below; I'm just cautious. If I answer that question, it is a lot like answering when I stopped beating my wife. If I answered, competion would be cutting and pasting to make it look like we charge SLAs JUST for software updates. We do not.
Patrick Leary M 727.501.3735 -----Original Message----- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 1:04 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] About $12k There is no SLA for just firmware updates. Patrick Leary M 727.501.3735 -----Original Message----- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 1:01 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] About $12k How much is the SLA for firmware updates? On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 11:33 AM, Patrick Leary <patrick.le...@telrad.com> wrote: > No. SLA, yes, but SLAs are normal to maintain support and to get software > upgrades (not just bug fixes)...and in our case, soon network monitoring free > for the first year from our own data center. > > Patrick Leary > M 727.501.3735 > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt > Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 11:44 AM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] About $12k > >> Quite not the case. Ever price typical LTE? And our licenses you own once >> first bought, with no annual renewals. > > Thought there was an annual license fee to get firmware updates etc? > > >> >> >> >> Patrick Leary >> >> M 727.501.3735 >> >> >> >> >> >> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of TJ Trout >> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 11:25 PM >> To: af@afmug.com >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] About $12k >> >> >> >> The sauce better be really really good with all of those licenses. >> Seems like u have a license for just about everything ? :) >> >> On Mar 3, 2015 8:20 PM, "Jason McKemie" <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> >> wrote: >> >> Is there frequency re-use with a 3 BTS setup? If there is re-use, what's the >> penalty? >> >> On Tuesday, March 3, 2015, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: >> >> 3x 65s for 360* coverage. >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: "Jason McKemie" <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> >> To: af@afmug.com >> Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 9:07:51 PM >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] About $12k >> >> Is there a 90 degree sector or are you using 65 degree sectors in a 4 BTS >> cluster? >> >> On Tuesday, March 3, 2015, Patrick Leary <patrick.le...@telrad.com> wrote: >> >> Only 2 models, the 3.65 (actually 3.4-3.7) COMPACT 1000 or the 2.x >> (2.3 and 2.5) COMPACT 3000. I included the 3.65 version. The 2.5 is >> all the same, save for the BTS price, which is about $5k higher (but >> 40 dBm per port and 43 pounds of brute power, compared to the 18 >> pound COMPACT 1000) >> >> >> >> Patrick Leary >> >> M 727.501.3735 >> >> >> >> >> >> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jason McKemie >> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 9:36 PM >> To: af@afmug.com >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] About $12k >> >> >> >> Which base station are you quoting, and what are the basic differences >> between the models? >> >> On Tuesday, March 3, 2015, Patrick Leary <patrick.le...@telrad.com> wrote: >> >> Think of all the EPC options (and there are 3 forms) as shells: >> >> >> >> 1 is an shell embedded as a piece of software inside EACH BTS...a total one >> box solution (we can do that since we are a SDR). >> >> 1 is a shell that's a small (1/2U) appliance supporting up to 10k subs and 2 >> gigs. These are stackable and with our NPV option is infinitely stackable. >> >> >> >> Into each shell option you plug in ONLY the functionality you need: >> >> >> >> Connecting to an external Radius? Buy that module. Don't need to? Don't get >> it. >> >> If not above, then doing MAC level authentication instead? Buy the iHSSS >> module. >> >> PCRF module. Doing service flows and dedicated bearers? Get that. Don't, >> then don't. >> >> Need Layer 2, get that. Don't? Dont. >> >> >> >> These modules are in price relative to the version of EPC (baby, momma or >> papa bear size). >> >> >> >> Patrick Leary >> >> M 727.501.3735 >> >> >> >> >> >> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jason McKemie >> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 9:23 PM >> To: af@afmug.com >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] About $12k >> >> >> >> Never mind, I see that now. How much is the 50 user license? >> >> On Tuesday, March 3, 2015, Jason McKemie <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> >> wrote: >> >> Is the 50 user limit just a guideline or a software limitation? >> >> On Tuesday, March 3, 2015, Patrick Leary <patrick.le...@telrad.com> wrote: >> >> One BTS, included embedded EPC with MAC level authentication (cheapest >> option) supporting up to 50 clients. Antenna could be swapped for any other. >> NOTE: this exclude any NMS pieces, but you could just connect over Telnet or >> direct connect. This would be the BAREST of bones, but there it is. That's >> still LTE and about 100 Mbps with killer NLOS. >> >> >> >> Includes: >> >> >> >> 735270 >> >> CMP.XT-BS-3.4-3.7 >> >> 1 >> >> 715773 >> >> LTE COMPACT SW License >> >> 1 >> >> 700258 >> >> BMAX-4M-GPS >> >> 1 >> >> 300736 >> >> ANT 3.3-3.8GHz,18 dBi, 65deg, 4ports >> (RF cables NOT included) >> >> 1 >> >> 715620 >> >> BreezeWay-1010-50 >> (per Compact HW license) >> >> 1 >> >> 715621 >> >> BreezeWay-1010-iHSS-50 >> (50 subs. license) >> >> 1 >> >> SLA >> >> 1 Year SLA >> >> 1 >> >> >> >> >> >> Patrick Leary >> >> M 727.501.3735 >> >> >> >> >> >> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary >> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 9:08 PM >> To: af@afmug.com >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback >> >> >> >> No, could be much less. Give me a minute... >> >> >> >> Patrick Leary >> >> M 727.501.3735 >> >> >> >> >> >> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman >> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 9:05 PM >> To: af@afmug.com >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback >> >> >> >> Probably 20k to start. Quality over quantity. >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> On Mar 3, 2015 8:56 PM, "John Woodfield" <john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz> wrote: >> >> Patrick, >> >> >> >> I haven't had time to read through all this emails. Can you summarize what >> the lowest cost get up and running on a tower is so I can consider this >> further along with cost per sub? >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> John Woodfield, President >> >> Delmarva WiFi Inc. >> >> 410-870-WiFi >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: "Patrick Leary" <patrick.le...@telrad.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 8:41pm >> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback >> >> Alvarion did that. I admit, I'm not a fan of capping Glen. It is a gimmick. >> The hardware is what it is, and this hardware is expensive. 30dBm per port. >> 4 tx/4rx. Power is expensive. The highest quality DSPs on the market. not >> consumer grade stuff with the sensitivity of your in home Wi-Fi router. We >> build our own phy from the ground up too, our own ATPC algorithms too. >> >> >> >> On the software, we do that though -- enabling modularity and scale as you >> need to. I think I need to do a dedicated webinar to this community to walk >> you guys (or those inclined) through it (any takers?). I do not think we can >> be a solution that makes sense where you only have 15 clients. That's the >> blunt truth. Unless you are doing 50 Mbps customers, I am not your micropop >> (but I can do that in some modest scale). That said, I wonder where that 15 >> number comes from? Can you please explain on what architecture that is >> based? Range? Height? Etc. If it is based on a micropop and even then on >> what just that pop can see, I'd say that's likely a model invented out of >> necessity due to the poor performance of the system you are using. >> >> >> >> I had a guy on a call today. He zoomed me in on Google Earth to his "NLOS" >> area. Farmland with wind breaks and shade trees for the homes. He is at 400' >> and can't connect squat behind those breaks. In my world, that's LOS all the >> way, even at 150 ft. It is total garbage that so many systems to can't deal >> with that and you've all been fed that that is "normal." It is not. It is >> just gear with terrible specs where the only R&D is at the software level, >> and even that is scant. ....You do not have NLOS problems. You have >> equipment problems. How such a product ever was allowed to go to market as a >> "solution" for rural broadband is, to me, cynical and reflective of playing >> a market to skim opportunistic dollars from a market segment that sometimes >> seems to embrace abuse. Sort of like the poor 700 MHz owners who got sucked >> in to buying 20 year old Marconi WipLL repackaged as a 700 MHz "solution" >> because all there was to buy. Then vendors do that crap and THEN, THEN tell >> you there's no backward compatibility when they come out with something new? >> >> >> >> WISPs. Sometimes you guys drive me nuts. You are like cheerleaders that love >> to date the quarterbacks who abuse you. That is like selling a car that >> falls apart once you leave residential streets. None of you should ever have >> accepted these golf carts to run your fleets. Sometimes, cheap is just cheap. >> >> >> >> Boy, I'm gonna hear it from my vendor peers, but this ain't a game or just a >> job for me. I damn sure hope it ain't that for you either. >> >> >> >> Patrick Leary >> >> M 727.501.3735 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Glen Waldrop >> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 8:08 PM >> To: af@afmug.com >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback >> >> >> >> Sort of off topic, but what would be the smallest AP we could get? >> >> I'm thinking about using this system on a few of my towers to make sure we >> never leave without a new customer, but I serve a very rural area. >> >> I have some towers with 15 clients. >> >> Is an omni + GPS sync or narrow channel out of the question? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: Patrick Leary >> >> To: tel...@wispa.org ; af@afmug.com >> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 4:42 PM >> >> Subject: [AFMUG] New feedback >> >> >> >> This is an interesting bit of commentary from one of our new customers. If >> he wishes to identify himself, he will.... >> >> >> >> Patrick Leary >> >> M 727.501.3735 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From: >> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 2:31 AM >> To: Patrick Leary; Nick Dewar >> Subject: Interesting Statistic >> >> >> >> "Patrick / Nick – >> >> >> >> Our Director of Operations, which you both met in St Louis, sent out an >> interesting email to our staff this evening. In February with only 20 >> working days we completed 40 installs with one technician... This is only >> icing on the cake, especially since we are onboarding two more techs... I >> ran some additional numbers and found that out of the “Telrad” installations >> that we scheduled, 100 % were successful both of these months. This is a >> game changer, and it proves that we can eliminate the need to waste further >> time with the dreaded site surveys. Our success is not without the help of >> Telrad’s Compact solution. Truly amazing and inspiring, excited for our >> aggressive expansion this spring/summer/fall. I cannot wait to have >> hundreds of these damn things in the air. >> >> >> >> Excited and thankful to be a part of the LTE Beta, and am thankful for the >> “Holy Grail” email that introduced us to the product...." >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ********************************************************************* >> * >> ************** This footnote confirms that this email message has >> been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious >> code, vandals & computer viruses. >> ********************************************************************* >> * >> ************** >> >> >> >> >> >> ********************************************************************* >> * >> ************** This footnote confirms that this email message has >> been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious >> code, vandals & computer viruses. >> ********************************************************************* >> * >> ************** >> >> >> >> >> >> 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