I’m not sure that’s true unless the AF does some sort of noise cancelling 
algorithm, which maybe it does.  But I don’t see where the antennas alone 
accomplish that.  Yes, +45 would see V at –3dB, but it would also see H at 
–3dB, and assuming they are uncorrelated, the addition puts you right back 
where you started.


From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2015 6:55 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Typical improvement when using 45* slant

Ahh I see what you're saying.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mar 7, 2015 7:53 PM, "Jerry Richardson" <je...@richardson.bz> wrote:

  The slants will be for the AF5X which will see the rockets -3dB less than if 
the AF5X was on H/V



  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
  Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2015 4:41 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Typical improvement when using 45* slant



  Rockets don't decide the slant/linear.  The antenna does.  So those "HV 
Rockets" on the 45* antenna aren't HV at all.






  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373



  On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 7:25 PM, Jerry Richardson <je...@richardson.bz> wrote:

    I see I’m not ‘splaining myself adequately



    On a given tower, if I have some rockets (H/V) and I use a 45 degree 
antenna, I should see additional S/N of x (3dB was my guess) between the two 
systems. 



    While that +3db would be welcome, I’m not counting it.



    From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
    Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2015 3:50 PM
    To: af@afmug.com
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Typical improvement when using 45* slant



    Radios are different, but slant vs pol won't get you different signals.

    Josh Luthman
    Office: 937-552-2340
    Direct: 937-552-2343
    1100 Wayne St
    Suite 1337
    Troy, OH 45373

    On Mar 7, 2015 6:38 PM, "Jerry Richardson" <je...@richardson.bz> wrote:

      Looking to put in an AF5X with the 45deg slant antennas. Was curious if 
we would see any additional link improvements over the H/V Rockets.



      I’m just assuming we won’t to error on the side of caution. 



      From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jon Langeler
      Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2015 3:20 PM
      To: af@afmug.com
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Typical improvement when using 45* slant



      if you have any links with oddball H/V signals, dual slant would level 
them out a bit to be about the same on each polarity.

      Sent from my iPhone


      On Mar 7, 2015, at 12:34 PM, Jerry Richardson <je...@richardson.bz> wrote:

        Looking at using AF5X for a link with the 34dB 45* slants



        What kind of improvement would you expect to see over standard V/H 
polarization? +3dB? +6dB?



        Thanks!


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