From what I remember, TWC has residential in 10.x.x.x/8 and carries quite a few vlans on their network (network wide). I got the skinny one day a few years ago while sitting in a TWC splice truck waiting for a circuit to get finished while taking about the miracle that was tight bend radius fiber.
Same with VPLS and CE... if you're the type of operation that's running VLANs to separate things across the entire network, iBGP, VPLS, CE, etc. are more than likely beyond your reach at this moment in time.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.comFrom: "Josh Reynolds" <josh@spitwspots.com>
To: "Mike Hammett" <afmug@ics-il.net>
Cc: af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, March 9, 2015 12:01:28 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Looking for help converting from a bridged network torouted.Many providers have multiple border edges. That's what iBGP is for :P
On Mar 9, 2015 8:45 AM, Mike Hammett <afmug@ics-il.net> wrote:One downfall of that is that it's more difficult to move traffic that doesn't go directly to your NOC. It also makes it more difficult to have two edges. It also doesn't have as good of failure re-routing.From: "Jeremy" <jeremysmith2@gmail.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, March 9, 2015 10:29:26 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Looking for help converting from a bridged network torouted.I am one of those people. We run a fully bridged network with segmented VLANs to each AP. We also prune the VLANs over each backhaul link so the packets only go where they are supposed to. This segments the broadcast domain and resolves the majority of the issues that a bridged network can suffer from. A bridged network doesn't have to be a 'flat' network.On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 9:23 AM, That One Guy <thatoneguysteve@gmail.com> wrote:not to hijack you, but there are some who maintain a fully bridged network and use VLAN instead of routing, this I am curious about, it may be a cost effective solution for you as well.I started our migration 4ish years ago and had the budget cut out from under me with only half the routers deployed, let me tell you, a 50/50 network sucks a great deal to manage. whatever you do, make sure you have all your routers on your desk before you begin--On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 10:15 AM, Chuck McCown <chuck@wbmfg.com> wrote:Everyone seems to have lived through this evolution at some point.A bridged WISP is asking for trouble.How many APs and how many sites? Are the switches at the sites capable of supporting VLANs? That is where I would start. Either that or replacing the switches with routers. Personally, one router with VLANS to each AP via managed switches would be my preference.From: Brandon YuchaszSent: Monday, March 09, 2015 9:10 AMTo: af@afmug.comSubject: [AFMUG] Looking for help converting from a bridged network torouted.I am looking for help converting our network from bridged to routed. This is something I don’t have a lot of background in but I also don’t want to end the process having a system I can’t fix so I will need someone that is willing to both do the work and teach me at the same time. Depending on how the process works in regards to time I am hoping to spend an hour a week working over the phone and through a remote desktop app.
My main reasons for working on this now are I need to see bandwidth use per SM, per AP, and have better ways of tracking both long term. We are just to blind right now and starting to really grow again I need to get it under control now before we get to large.
I am open to suggestions on routers but already had purchased microtik and butches scripts which after trying and failing to get it to work never implemented.
Contact me off list Brandon@gogebicrange.net if you can help.
Thanks,
Brandon Yuchasz
GogebicRange.net
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