except that it's a townhouse and not a condo so the roof is an acceptable
place to mount.

On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 3:27 PM, Patrick Leary <patrick.le...@telrad.com>
wrote:

>  This is from the FCC website re the OTARD FAQs:
>
>
>
> "The rule does not apply to common areas that are owned by a landlord, a
> community association, or jointly by condominium or cooperative owners
> where the antenna user does not have an exclusive use area.  Such common
> areas may include the roof or exterior wall of a multiple dwelling unit.
> Therefore, restrictions on antennas installed in or on such common areas
> are enforceable."
>
>
>
> http://www.fcc.gov/guides/over-air-reception-devices-rule
>
>
>
> *Patrick Leary*
>
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> *From:* members-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:members-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Paul Conlin
> *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 5:16 PM
>
> *To:* memb...@wispa.org
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA Members] Angry landlord over Roof mount antenna
>
>
>
> It doesn’t sound like a common roof to me.  If the houses are the typical
> where there are 6 houses side-to-side-to-side each would have its own
> roof.  So six roofs all connected to look like one roof.  If you look
> carefully in the attics you will see the firewalls divide to create six
> individual attics and, by extension, six individual roofs.  Tell the
> landlord building code says it is 6 roofs.  He can own all 6 but they are
> individual roofs.  Then OTARD clearly makes each of those roofs exclusive
> to each of the respective tenants.  I think this situation is exactly why
> OTARD was created.
>
>
>
> So while I do recommend you work things out with the landlord, don’t
> inadvertently give any weight to his arguments.  You still may need to
> trump him with Federal Law.  The tenant’s security deposit might be used to
> “fix” the roof when they move out.  Ordinary wear and tear has been defined
> by the courts so many times I would expect leaving the J-arm foot on the
> shingles will not be considered extraordinary damage.  I hope you took
> photos of your install.
>
>
>
> Offer to not charge the owner for increasing the value of his property
> with the availability of your service.  ;)
>
>
>
> PC
>
> Blaze Broadband
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>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* members-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:members-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Darin Steffl
> *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 5:00 PM
> *To:* memb...@wispa.org; af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA Members] Angry landlord over Roof mount antenna
>
>
>
> So the landlord owns 6 townhomes and they all share the same roof. It
> sounds like this is a common space and one not protected by OTARD if I read
> it right. If that sounds right to you guys, my next option would be to ask
> permission on behalf of the tenant to leave the equipment up since it's
> already there.
>
>
>
> If they still say no, I can tell them to talk with the tenant since we
> were given permission to mount the antenna on the roof and approval on
> drilling hole for cable.
>
>
>
> Any other ideas?
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 3:46 PM, tim Maylone <
> t...@cherrycapitalconnection.com> wrote:
>
> One reason we use nonpenetrating.
>
> Second is a signed form providing you permission.
>
>
>
> Otard does not protect you from property damage.
>
>
>
>
>
> Tim Maylone - General Manager
>
> Cherry Capital Connection believes that every home deserves High Speed
> Internet. Where you choose to live or work should not be a barrier to
> access. It is our mission to make this a reality "one customer" at a time.
>
>
>
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
>
> From: alex phillips
>
> Date:03/16/2015 4:30 PM (GMT-05:00)
>
> To: memb...@wispa.org
>
> Subject: Re: [WISPA Members] Angry landlord over Roof mount antenna
>
>
>
> Also, since now the deed is done why not ask the land lord if they can
> just keep it.  It is ultimately their responsibility to fix all of this in
> the future so why loose the service and pay for repairs.
>
>
>
> I think you can explain to the land lord how the work was done and the
> tenant should explain how they are going to fix it all when they leave but
> honestly, having internet there makes the place more rent-able and all my
> landlords say leave it.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 3:55 PM, Darin Steffl <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hey all,
>
>
>
> So I got an angry call from a owner of a townhouse who rents it out to one
> of our new internet customers. We were never made aware the home was a
> rental in any way. Our techs always ask permission on where to mount the
> dish and bring in the wire and they were given approval to mount the dish
> on the roof and drill a hole for the wire. If it was a rental, we would
> have talked to the landlord.
>
>
>
> The home owner now wants us to remove the dish, cable, and holes and
> restore everything to original condition. He wants new siding, new
> shingles, the whole works.
>
>
>
> I don't exactly know how I should handle this situation. We won't be
> pulling the mount off the roof because it is sealed if we leave it there.
> We can't move the dish because the signal is only good there. Do we have
> any sort of protection from OTARD or anything that allows us to keep things
> in place since we were given permission from the tenant?
>
>
>
> Ideas or ways to handle this smoothly? We are not going to pay for new
> siding or roofing when we were given permission to install. If anything,
> the tenant would be responsible since we did the work on their behalf.
>
>
>
>
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