So true!

On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 2:37 PM, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Probably because he'd rather not know...
>
> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 3:36 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>
>> Why haven't you ever asked me what I'd like you to do?
>>
>>
>>
>> -----
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From: *"Ben Moore" <ben.mo...@ubnt.com>
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Monday, March 23, 2015 3:28:24 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] splain the AC ubnt line
>>
>>
>> What exactly would you like me to do?  We are telling you where units are
>> available.  As I mentioned distributors place orders at different times and
>> some new products get ordered sooner than others.
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 2:15 PM, <t...@nwohiobb.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Mike
>>> its one of the main distributor for ubnt and ben wont do anything about
>>> it....
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>
>>> On 2015-03-23 16:06, Mike Hammett wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sounds like your distributor sucks. ;-)
>>>>
>>>> -----
>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>>
>>>> -------------------------
>>>>
>>>> FROM: t...@nwohiobb.com
>>>> TO: af@afmug.com
>>>> SENT: Monday, March 23, 2015 3:03:54 PM
>>>> SUBJECT: Re: [AFMUG] splain the AC ubnt line
>>>>
>>>> Well it doesnt help me any if I already got mine ordered but the
>>>> distributor is dragging there feet to get mine to me
>>>>
>>>> On 2015-03-23 15:42, Ben Moore wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Jeremy!
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 1:37 PM, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Streakwave has them (PBE-5AC-620) in stock now. I am picking some
>>>>>> up on will call.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 8:55 AM, Tim Reichhart <t...@nwohiobb.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rory
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ben told me it as been shipping since dec and I have ordered mine
>>>>>> and I keep getting told I wont have mine until may which is totally
>>>>>> uncalled for.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> FROM: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] ON BEHALF OF Rory Conaway
>>>>>> SENT: Saturday, March 21, 2015 1:37 AM
>>>>>> TO: af@afmug.com
>>>>>> SUBJECT: Re: [AFMUG] splain the AC ubnt line
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is the PBE-5AC-620 shipping yet?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rory
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> FROM: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] ON BEHALF OF Rory Conaway
>>>>>> SENT: Friday, March 20, 2015 3:43 PM
>>>>>> TO: af@afmug.com
>>>>>> SUBJECT: Re: [AFMUG] splain the AC ubnt line
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If I set up a new tower with 802.11ac, am I going to have any
>>>>>> problems getting CPE’s over the next 3 months? Is there any
>>>>>> chance of supply shortages?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rory
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> FROM: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] ON BEHALF OF Ben Moore
>>>>>> SENT: Friday, March 20, 2015 2:59 PM
>>>>>> TO: af@afmug.com
>>>>>> SUBJECT: Re: [AFMUG] splain the AC ubnt line
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That is the good thing about these...they are being air shipped ;-)
>>>>>> You can imagine what I would say with all of the port issues if
>>>>>> they were going "on the boat" ;)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 3:54 PM, Josh Luthman
>>>>>> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can't think of any. If you take the word "soon" and "on the
>>>>>> boat" out of your emails, we'd save about 15 terabytes of storage.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 [1]
>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 [2]
>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 5:51 PM, Ben Moore <ben.mo...@ubnt.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Come on now...I know I have done it at least once before in the
>>>>>>
>>>>> last
>>>>
>>>>> 15 years...Man, can't believe it has already been 15 years!!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 3:46 PM, Josh Luthman
>>>>>> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well they may or may not be reliable, but you stated a quantifiable
>>>>>> value. That has to be a first.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 [1]
>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 [2]
>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 5:42 PM, Ben Moore <ben.mo...@ubnt.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey, who says they are accurate??
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 3:39 PM, Josh Luthman
>>>>>> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Did Ben...just measure...in accurate numbers?????????????
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 [1]
>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 [2]
>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 5:31 PM, Ben Moore <ben.mo...@ubnt.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, but should be in distributors hands in ~7-10 days.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 3:30 PM, That One Guy
>>>>>> <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> this is a cheap link, nanopowerbeams are integrated not
>>>>>> connectorized
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I didnt give much thought to the AF5x since its not in anybodys
>>>>>> actual hands yet is it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 4:24 PM, Mathew Howard
>>>>>> <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I guess because you're too cheap to spend an extra $400 on the
>>>>>>
>>>>> link?
>>>>
>>>>> Personally, I wouldn't... if I'm going to go cheap, might as well
>>>>>>
>>>>> go
>>>>
>>>>> all the way cheap and use a pair of NanoPowerBeams.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 4:18 PM, Josh Luthman
>>>>>> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't know why you'd do UBNT AC when you can do AF5x unless it
>>>>>> needs done in the next couple weeks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 [1]
>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 [2]
>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 5:16 PM, Mathew Howard
>>>>>> <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, the Rockets are the only connectorized units.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Lite is cheap and can do PtP or PtMP, but does not have
>>>>>> airprism. The PtP and PtMP have airPrism, but there's apparently
>>>>>> differences in airprism between the two which means they will
>>>>>>
>>>>> always
>>>>
>>>>> be limited to ptp or ptmp, as far as I know this is going to be a
>>>>>> permanent separation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The AC radios have faster CPUs and that sort of thing, so they are
>>>>>> going to perform better than the old junk, they also have some
>>>>>> spiffy features like live airview. The biggest downside to the AC
>>>>>> line at this point is the lack of DFS and UNII-1.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I personally wouldn't put up anything with the old M5 stuff at this
>>>>>> point unless you need to for compatibility reasons, UBNT AC should
>>>>>> perform best of the three, but ePMP gives you a bit more
>>>>>>
>>>>> flexibility
>>>>
>>>>> at this point. I expect AF5x to be better than any of them in every
>>>>>> way.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 4:02 PM, That One Guy
>>>>>> <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The current iteractions of the rocket AC line, these are the only
>>>>>> connectorized units?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What are the differences between lite, ptp, and ptmp airprism only?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are some of these shipping without all there guts?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am looking at replacing an old shitbucket tranzeo link, we
>>>>>>
>>>>> already
>>>>
>>>>> have it connected to one pol of a set of radiowaves 2 foot HP
>>>>>> parabolics. I figure its worth checking out these AC radios, but I
>>>>>> dont know whats what now, is this a permanent separation with UBNT
>>>>>> of ptp and ptmp or is this two things that are going to converge?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Other than the Ac component, for a low throughput demand link is
>>>>>> there any major benefit of going to the AC over the M5 in terms of
>>>>>> performance? (future demand is a factor as well)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also considering the epmp, goods, bads uglies between the three
>>>>>> products there?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see
>>>>>> your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of
>>>>>> the team.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
>>>>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the
>>>>>
>>>> team.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Links:
>>>>> ------
>>>>> [1] tel:937-552-2340
>>>>> [2] tel:937-552-2343
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
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