A lot of the products that WISPs use have historically had sketchy (and ever changing) SNMP support which is probably one reason he is acting the way that he is. I am -not- making an excuse for his behavior or attitude; just stating a fact.
Josh On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 9:44 AM, WaveDirect <li...@wavedirect.org> wrote: > Just shows you what sort "person" this guy is. Let him rot in his own > cesspool of hate. He just saw a bunch of work ahead of him that would > benefit a great deal of people, took a half assed stab at it and then said > "naw I'm too lazy I don't want to do it." > > Its a classic case of cognitive dissonance. I'd like to do it, but its > too hard therefore I don't want to do it and screw you I can't do it so I > hate all of you. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2015 9:00:13 AM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What Adam Armstrong of Observium thinks of WISPS > > What does Adam Armstrong’s Linkedin profile say “Wispa Connoisseur”? He > likes Wispa candy bars? It seems ironic if he looks down on WISPs. > > > From: David Milholen > Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 7:27 AM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What Adam Armstrong of Observium thinks of WISPS > > Some folks in the coding world think they have the million dollar code and > is above everyone else when in reality they suck at everything else > and only have a decent piece of code nothing more. This is where open > source gets versatile and ugly at times because someone that is willing > to build the initial code to a higher standard can see the flaws others > have made and fix what needs to be fixed. > These are the guys who make open source a great place to play. > > Our entire core is built around open source our VMs and phy servers are > all open source. I dont have a single windows machine in my office now. > I did have an old XP machine to run linkplanner but WINE has come a long > way so now I run it on my Debian console with no issue. > > all of our techs use small laptops with either crashbang linux or Lubuntu > on them to allow them to switch between networks quickly. > Our Senior tech can be in and out of a home in less than 40min with > contract and paid invoice. > up until last year we made the change to move all tech laptops to linux. > > > > On 3/31/2015 5:01 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > > I haven't paid him a dime, but it does many things very well. > > It's like the guy that made the badass bandwidth shaper years ago. He > was a tool, but people still bought it because it was the best at what it > did. > > Eventually someone else will make something better and not be a tool, > but that's where we're at for now. > > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > From: "Lists" mailto:li...@wavedirect.org > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 10:41:11 AM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What Adam Armstrong of Observium thinks of WISPS > > So write a good product = you can treat customers (yes I paid the sub) > however you want. Belittle industries publically without consequence? > > Why are you apologizing for him? The means justifies the end? I think > its because you are probably the person who paid him to put the Trango Apex > code in as well as other things and are invested. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Hammett" mailto:af...@ics-il.net > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 11:38:00 AM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What Adam Armstrong of Observium thinks of WISPS > > Lots of people do just that because it's the best at what it does do. > > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Lists" mailto:li...@wavedirect.org > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 10:36:39 AM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What Adam Armstrong of Observium thinks of WISPS > > Also a total douchebag and has scared more than one person away from his > product with his personality. I openly admitted to him his product was > great but the lack of flexibility will be his downfall. Nobody will want to > do business with a person like this who openly calls you and everything you > work for a "retard" > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Hammett" mailto:af...@ics-il.net > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 11:33:07 AM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What Adam Armstrong of Observium thinks of WISPS > > Adam is very strong in his beliefs. that said, they're usually founded > on something concrete. > > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Lists" mailto:li...@wavedirect.org > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 10:09:41 AM > Subject: [AFMUG] What Adam Armstrong of Observium thinks of WISPS > > > > > This was on the channel #observium in open public chat (not private). > Its pruned to take out some joins/parts useless info etc. I simply asked > about support for Cambium and now we know exactly what he thinks of "wifi > people". This guy is a true professional. Funny they think Mikrotik is > "ghetto". Sure he makes some valid points about the lack of unity in our > MIBS. I liked his product for our infrastructure, switches, routers etc. > But I think I can get by without his product from now on. This is the > luxury of having many independent monitoring systems. It lacks any real > alerting system or agents for servers anyway. I literally started off with > that sentence. He added some cambium support a few months ago so I wanted > to know if more was coming. > > [09:34] <Smeghead> any chance of adding more cambium stuff soon? :) > [09:34] <adama> are they another bunch of fucktards who make a new set > of mibs for every product? > [09:35] <adama> everyone involved in wireless seems to be literally > retarded when it comes to writing mibs > [09:37] <adama> yup, they are > [09:38] <Smeghead> Yeah so I guess we shouldn't support it then and all > the millions of units out there. > [09:38] <adama> different set of mibs for every fuckign product > [09:38] <adama> jesus > [09:38] <Smeghead> They unified one of their mibs with the regular AP's > [09:38] <adama> can you english? > [09:39] <Smeghead> The interface stuff is the same for all of them > [09:39] <Smeghead> its your standard interface mibs. Other than that > really there is MAYBE 10 unique things per different product > [09:40] <adama> fucking wifi people > [09:40] <adama> you guys have 12903819023810 products from 129381 vendors > [09:40] <Smeghead> If you want to be thorough with them you could pull > all sorts of stuff out. > [09:40] <adama> and you're always whining that we should support the > stuff you want > [09:40] <adama> well fuck you all > [09:40] <Smeghead> Yeah thats my fault as a consumer of those products. > [09:41] <Smeghead> All I want to do is monitor the best.. Cambium is the > biggest and most widely used next to Ubiquiti.. so I'd stick to supporting > those 2 fully > [09:41] <adama> meh > [09:41] <adama> get them to send us hardware > [09:41] <adama> and maybe we'll give a shit > [09:43] <Smeghead> I'll see if we can send you cambium for sure. I could > even arrange you a login or set you up a vm on the network so you can probe > some equipment we have plugged in in a separate environment for you. > [09:43] <Smeghead> I'm pretty sure I offered a few times. > [09:49] <Smeghead> to be honest though - I don't think observium is > really hugely needed for AP's and subcribers. Maybe starting with just the > wireless bridges first would be the best start. That isn't so overwhelming > [09:57] <adama> you might as well go and hassle jaguar engineers about > how they really should build a pickup truck > [09:57] <adama> i'm a telco/isp network person, i don't give 2 shits > about wireless > [09:57] <Smeghead> Who do you think delivers internet to the massive > areas between the major cities? > [09:58] <adama> i dunno, are we talking about retarded countries or not? > [09:58] <Smeghead> Yeah all of the Western hemisphere.. > [09:59] <adama> lol > [09:59] <adama> XD > [10:01] <adama> my patience for people asking for wireless stuff ran out > long ago > [10:01] <Smeghead> Well if you want more excuses to neglect a high > percentage of industry in the world that delivers internet.. yeah take this > one. Its probably too hard and too much work for you. Because the wireless > industry is retarded. > [10:01] <adama> i know it is > [10:02] <Smeghead> Yet I can make some cacti graphs in a few mins for > anything. Cacti is old and busted. Your product is new and refreshing. That > is why the industry is bugging you. > [10:04] <adama> go and make some cacti graphs then > [10:04] <adama> i'm really fucking sick of this shit > [10:04] <adama> it doesn't take 5 minutes to add support for things > [10:04] <adama> especially no nfucking wireless stuff > [10:04] <adama> so just fuck off > [10:04] <adama> it's not going to happen > [10:04] <adama> and every one who asks makes it less likely to happen > [ 10:06] <Smeghead> But I'll bet if you asked for help you'd get it. > Look I was willing to set you up a network with all the devices you need > [10:06] <adama> excuse me whilst i replace these 32*10G bundles with > some wireless > [10:06] <adama> HURR > [10:06] <adama> no > [10:06] <adama> i'd get a pile of useless shitty code > [10:06] <adama> that's the only thing we've ever gotten from the > "community" > [10:09] <aden> adama: make Observium -3rd world edition, that only > supports mikrotik and ghetto wireless hardware > [10:09] <adama> hah > [10:10] <Smeghead> Mainly because its (Mikrotik) like 10% of the price > and does the same job and even better in many cases. > [10:11] <adama> no, they use it because it "just about works" and costs > 10% of the price > [10:11] <Smeghead> Dragonwave aint ghetto nor some of these other > backhaul manufacturers. > [10:12] <Smeghead> and your proof is from what experience? > [10:12] <Smeghead> Sounds like a case of "they suck over there" and "I > know all about them, I've never worked in the industry or actually been a > part of any of it but I know what I'm talking about". > [10:13] <Smeghead> Those crazy brown people and their silly ways. They > are inferior to us. > [10:13] <adama> man, this is exactly the kind of shit that made us go > commercial in the first place > [10:14] <adama> dude > [10:14] <adama> just fuck off > [10:14] <adama> you're getting really tiring now > [10:14] <Smeghead> It takes 10x more effort to deliver internet to > remote people.. not to mention flexibility and creativity. > [10:14] <Smeghead> Than some pompous pricks sitting in their offices > [10:15] <adama> so what was that, remove any existing wireless support > and hope everyone else fucks off too? > [10:16] <adama> ok then! > [10:16] <Smeghead> Hahh what wireless support? > [10:16] * ChanServ sets mode: +o adama > [10:16] * You were kicked by adama (Smeghead) > Session Close: Tue Mar 31 10:16:22 2015 > > > > > -- >
