I have to admit Ubiquiti doesn't have a great track record of SNMP support (I know I know) ;) -- but we're working on it. Trying to get it right in v5.6 with our new / custom MIB. If you guys need devices to test with, we'll be glad to donate a few...
Thanks, Matt On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 9:50 AM, Josh Baird <joshba...@gmail.com> wrote: > A lot of the products that WISPs use have historically had sketchy (and > ever changing) SNMP support which is probably one reason he is acting the > way that he is. I am -not- making an excuse for his behavior or attitude; > just stating a fact. > > Josh > > On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 9:44 AM, WaveDirect <li...@wavedirect.org> wrote: > >> Just shows you what sort "person" this guy is. Let him rot in his own >> cesspool of hate. He just saw a bunch of work ahead of him that would >> benefit a great deal of people, took a half assed stab at it and then said >> "naw I'm too lazy I don't want to do it." >> >> Its a classic case of cognitive dissonance. I'd like to do it, but its >> too hard therefore I don't want to do it and screw you I can't do it so I >> hate all of you. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> >> To: af@afmug.com >> Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2015 9:00:13 AM >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What Adam Armstrong of Observium thinks of WISPS >> >> What does Adam Armstrong’s Linkedin profile say “Wispa Connoisseur”? He >> likes Wispa candy bars? It seems ironic if he looks down on WISPs. >> >> >> From: David Milholen >> Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 7:27 AM >> To: af@afmug.com >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What Adam Armstrong of Observium thinks of WISPS >> >> Some folks in the coding world think they have the million dollar code >> and is above everyone else when in reality they suck at everything else >> and only have a decent piece of code nothing more. This is where open >> source gets versatile and ugly at times because someone that is willing >> to build the initial code to a higher standard can see the flaws others >> have made and fix what needs to be fixed. >> These are the guys who make open source a great place to play. >> >> Our entire core is built around open source our VMs and phy servers are >> all open source. I dont have a single windows machine in my office now. >> I did have an old XP machine to run linkplanner but WINE has come a long >> way so now I run it on my Debian console with no issue. >> >> all of our techs use small laptops with either crashbang linux or Lubuntu >> on them to allow them to switch between networks quickly. >> Our Senior tech can be in and out of a home in less than 40min with >> contract and paid invoice. >> up until last year we made the change to move all tech laptops to linux. >> >> >> >> On 3/31/2015 5:01 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: >> >> I haven't paid him a dime, but it does many things very well. >> >> It's like the guy that made the badass bandwidth shaper years ago. He >> was a tool, but people still bought it because it was the best at what it >> did. >> >> Eventually someone else will make something better and not be a tool, >> but that's where we're at for now. >> >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> From: "Lists" mailto:li...@wavedirect.org >> To: af@afmug.com >> Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 10:41:11 AM >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What Adam Armstrong of Observium thinks of WISPS >> >> So write a good product = you can treat customers (yes I paid the sub) >> however you want. Belittle industries publically without consequence? >> >> Why are you apologizing for him? The means justifies the end? I think >> its because you are probably the person who paid him to put the Trango Apex >> code in as well as other things and are invested. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Mike Hammett" mailto:af...@ics-il.net >> To: af@afmug.com >> Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 11:38:00 AM >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What Adam Armstrong of Observium thinks of WISPS >> >> Lots of people do just that because it's the best at what it does do. >> >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "Lists" mailto:li...@wavedirect.org >> To: af@afmug.com >> Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 10:36:39 AM >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What Adam Armstrong of Observium thinks of WISPS >> >> Also a total douchebag and has scared more than one person away from >> his product with his personality. I openly admitted to him his product was >> great but the lack of flexibility will be his downfall. Nobody will want to >> do business with a person like this who openly calls you and everything you >> work for a "retard" >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Mike Hammett" mailto:af...@ics-il.net >> To: af@afmug.com >> Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 11:33:07 AM >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What Adam Armstrong of Observium thinks of WISPS >> >> Adam is very strong in his beliefs. that said, they're usually founded >> on something concrete. >> >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "Lists" mailto:li...@wavedirect.org >> >> To: af@afmug.com >> Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 10:09:41 AM >> Subject: [AFMUG] What Adam Armstrong of Observium thinks of WISPS >> >> >> >> >> This was on the channel #observium in open public chat (not private). >> Its pruned to take out some joins/parts useless info etc. I simply asked >> about support for Cambium and now we know exactly what he thinks of "wifi >> people". This guy is a true professional. Funny they think Mikrotik is >> "ghetto". Sure he makes some valid points about the lack of unity in our >> MIBS. I liked his product for our infrastructure, switches, routers etc. >> But I think I can get by without his product from now on. This is the >> luxury of having many independent monitoring systems. It lacks any real >> alerting system or agents for servers anyway. I literally started off with >> that sentence. He added some cambium support a few months ago so I wanted >> to know if more was coming. >> >> [09:34] <Smeghead> any chance of adding more cambium stuff soon? :) >> [09:34] <adama> are they another bunch of fucktards who make a new set >> of mibs for every product? >> [09:35] <adama> everyone involved in wireless seems to be literally >> retarded when it comes to writing mibs >> [09:37] <adama> yup, they are >> [09:38] <Smeghead> Yeah so I guess we shouldn't support it then and all >> the millions of units out there. >> [09:38] <adama> different set of mibs for every fuckign product >> [09:38] <adama> jesus >> [09:38] <Smeghead> They unified one of their mibs with the regular AP's >> [09:38] <adama> can you english? >> [09:39] <Smeghead> The interface stuff is the same for all of them >> [09:39] <Smeghead> its your standard interface mibs. Other than that >> really there is MAYBE 10 unique things per different product >> [09:40] <adama> fucking wifi people >> [09:40] <adama> you guys have 12903819023810 products from 129381 >> vendors >> [09:40] <Smeghead> If you want to be thorough with them you could pull >> all sorts of stuff out. >> [09:40] <adama> and you're always whining that we should support the >> stuff you want >> [09:40] <adama> well fuck you all >> [09:40] <Smeghead> Yeah thats my fault as a consumer of those products. >> [09:41] <Smeghead> All I want to do is monitor the best.. Cambium is >> the biggest and most widely used next to Ubiquiti.. so I'd stick to >> supporting those 2 fully >> [09:41] <adama> meh >> [09:41] <adama> get them to send us hardware >> [09:41] <adama> and maybe we'll give a shit >> [09:43] <Smeghead> I'll see if we can send you cambium for sure. I >> could even arrange you a login or set you up a vm on the network so you can >> probe some equipment we have plugged in in a separate environment for you. >> [09:43] <Smeghead> I'm pretty sure I offered a few times. >> [09:49] <Smeghead> to be honest though - I don't think observium is >> really hugely needed for AP's and subcribers. Maybe starting with just the >> wireless bridges first would be the best start. That isn't so overwhelming >> [09:57] <adama> you might as well go and hassle jaguar engineers about >> how they really should build a pickup truck >> [09:57] <adama> i'm a telco/isp network person, i don't give 2 shits >> about wireless >> [09:57] <Smeghead> Who do you think delivers internet to the massive >> areas between the major cities? >> [09:58] <adama> i dunno, are we talking about retarded countries or not? >> [09:58] <Smeghead> Yeah all of the Western hemisphere.. >> [09:59] <adama> lol >> [09:59] <adama> XD >> [10:01] <adama> my patience for people asking for wireless stuff ran >> out long ago >> [10:01] <Smeghead> Well if you want more excuses to neglect a high >> percentage of industry in the world that delivers internet.. yeah take this >> one. Its probably too hard and too much work for you. Because the wireless >> industry is retarded. >> [10:01] <adama> i know it is >> [10:02] <Smeghead> Yet I can make some cacti graphs in a few mins for >> anything. Cacti is old and busted. Your product is new and refreshing. That >> is why the industry is bugging you. >> [10:04] <adama> go and make some cacti graphs then >> [10:04] <adama> i'm really fucking sick of this shit >> [10:04] <adama> it doesn't take 5 minutes to add support for things >> [10:04] <adama> especially no nfucking wireless stuff >> [10:04] <adama> so just fuck off >> [10:04] <adama> it's not going to happen >> [10:04] <adama> and every one who asks makes it less likely to happen >> [ 10:06] <Smeghead> But I'll bet if you asked for help you'd get it. >> Look I was willing to set you up a network with all the devices you need >> [10:06] <adama> excuse me whilst i replace these 32*10G bundles with >> some wireless >> [10:06] <adama> HURR >> [10:06] <adama> no >> [10:06] <adama> i'd get a pile of useless shitty code >> [10:06] <adama> that's the only thing we've ever gotten from the >> "community" >> [10:09] <aden> adama: make Observium -3rd world edition, that only >> supports mikrotik and ghetto wireless hardware >> [10:09] <adama> hah >> [10:10] <Smeghead> Mainly because its (Mikrotik) like 10% of the price >> and does the same job and even better in many cases. >> [10:11] <adama> no, they use it because it "just about works" and costs >> 10% of the price >> [10:11] <Smeghead> Dragonwave aint ghetto nor some of these other >> backhaul manufacturers. >> [10:12] <Smeghead> and your proof is from what experience? >> [10:12] <Smeghead> Sounds like a case of "they suck over there" and "I >> know all about them, I've never worked in the industry or actually been a >> part of any of it but I know what I'm talking about". >> [10:13] <Smeghead> Those crazy brown people and their silly ways. They >> are inferior to us. >> [10:13] <adama> man, this is exactly the kind of shit that made us go >> commercial in the first place >> [10:14] <adama> dude >> [10:14] <adama> just fuck off >> [10:14] <adama> you're getting really tiring now >> [10:14] <Smeghead> It takes 10x more effort to deliver internet to >> remote people.. not to mention flexibility and creativity. >> [10:14] <Smeghead> Than some pompous pricks sitting in their offices >> [10:15] <adama> so what was that, remove any existing wireless support >> and hope everyone else fucks off too? >> [10:16] <adama> ok then! >> [10:16] <Smeghead> Hahh what wireless support? >> [10:16] * ChanServ sets mode: +o adama >> [10:16] * You were kicked by adama (Smeghead) >> Session Close: Tue Mar 31 10:16:22 2015 >> >> >> >> >> -- >> > >
