Yeah, that is what I am trying to accomplish, for the people who will pay for 
it.

Take the guesswork out of their hands!

I'm doing GigE, so everything becomes tricky at those speeds, and the wired 
solution is best.

I have serious doubts about wireless working well, even in the future as the 
speeds increase.
Especially in multi-story homes.

My inlaws just built a house and they had ONE Ethernet from the outside home 
run, and ONE other Ethernet home run to the kitchen, lol!

On final walk through I said that's ridiculous and they told me everything was 
wireless now days.

I explained to them that my fiber service sort of screws that whole principle 
in the arse.

I didn't even bother to mention how WISPs would want to keep spectrum clean and 
prefer hard wire inside instead of several wireless routers.

I made them put an Ethernet to each room :)

Even my inlaws plug in routers, laptops and DirectTV equipment to keep things 
solidly streaming.

-----Original Message-----
From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2015 1:09 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Structured Wiring

Depends on local codes.  Some places here you need to be an electrician to 
install low voltage wiring and I have heard of things like electrical 
inspectors red tagging the project because the data jacks are white or ivory 
and not orange or red or whatever the local inspector thinks they have to be.

We used to see custom houses wired for data, not anymore because people want 
everything WiFi.  I'm waiting for the day when they don't wire for phone jacks 
because no one has landlines anymore.  I guess next the coax jacks go away 
because of wireless receivers.

What you say makes sense if people realize they may want to put several 
wireless access points around the house.  Will be cool if WiGig takes off.

But it's hard to find wireless APs at the store, and if you make a router into 
an AP, it tends to cause confusion.  All solvable problems, especially if these 
are high income types who will just call you for service rather than messing 
with it themselves.


-----Original Message-----
From: Sterling Jacobson
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2015 2:00 PM
To: '[email protected]'
Subject: [AFMUG] Structured Wiring

I'm wondering what your thoughts are on getting homes to use structured wiring.

Most of the homes we are installing/installed have a bundle of coax and 
Ethernet in the HVAC area.

I would love to see the home owner put in a structured box with electrical 
plug, terminate all the wiring and put a decent non-wireless router in there.
Then use a wireless extender or wireless router in bridge mode somewhere 
appropriate in their house.

Is anyone selling this kind of solution to customers?

Who is installing them?

I don't think I need certification in Utah to do these (Except the electrical).
I'm honestly thinking of training up a few teenagers to do these for cheaper.

What do you all think? 


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