PPPoE auth is broadcast. This will require a L2 path back to you PPPoE
server (BRAS). This is a deal breaker for many. Overhead is minimal. There
will be a some broadcast chatter on your L2 subnet. This can be filtered a
number of ways and usually not a concern.

On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 10:05 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> pppoe has been discussed quite often as a solution for limited IP space.
> Could someone give a breakdown of the required components from the edge of
> the network to the customer and the required topology?
> My understanding, which is probably wrong, is a client on the network
> connects, the device gets an IP, normally DHCP that can communicate all the
> way back to the pppoe server (what exactly is this)
> The credentials are provided and a pppoe session is established, all
> traffic flows through the pppoe tunnel and exits at the edge of the network
> the tunnel is essentially a vpn tunnel? there are overheads that need to
> be accounted for?
> Where is the public IP actually at? is it assigned as essentially a /32 at
> the customer end of the tunnel?
>
> How does the client device know where the pppoe server is, is this
> provided in the DHCP response?
>
> I know my understanding of this is probably totally way off, but I would
> love to know more, accurately
>
> On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 7:00 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) <
> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>
>> Which is why we played with it.  In the end, it seemed that the amount of
>> support hassles with pppoe wasn't worth the hassle.   But, this was a while
>> ago and pppoe has grown up a lot, so my opinion is probably not valid
>> anymore.
>> On Apr 15, 2015 5:27 AM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>>
>>> There are reasons to have PPPoE other than IP address assignment.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----
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>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From: *"Forrest Christian (List Account)" <li...@packetflux.com>
>>> *To: *"af" <af@afmug.com>
>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, April 15, 2015 3:02:50 AM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Providing public routed IPs to customers
>>>
>>>
>>> (WISP HAT ON)
>>>
>>> We have a subnet (or a couple of subnets, as sites have grown) at each
>>> tower, and an public IP statically assigned to each customer.  The radio
>>> gets a managment address out of 172.[16-31].x.x which corresponds to the
>>> public IP address.
>>>
>>> No DHCP anywhere, no PPPoE.
>>>
>>> But again, we have an /18 and a /19 assigned to us from back before NAT
>>> really existed and DHCP implementations from the early '90's kinda
>>> sucked.   We've played with PPPoE and DHCP, but kinda have been spoiled by
>>> the simplicity and reliability of a statically numbered network.
>>>
>>> -forrest
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 6:20 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@spitwspots.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> For those of you currently providing public/routed ips to customers?
>>>> What is your topology like and delivery method?
>>>>
>>>> Looking at doing a few things, have considered a few options, and
>>>> wanted to look out there and see what other people are doing.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Josh Reynolds
>>>> CIO, SPITwSPOTS
>>>> www.spitwspots.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
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>>>
>>>
>
>
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