Do you think it's something u can use in a production environment?

On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 2:25 PM, TJ Trout <t...@voltbb.com> wrote:

> Yes, I clearly understand how to implement. Just was wondering if someone
> offered it turn-key.
>
> I'm thinking that mikrotik won't be turn key, might be a big hassle to
> make and keep it working
>
> On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 2:22 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>
>> No, I'm suggesting you locate a Mikrotik box in the datacenter where you
>> can get the BGP connection(s). Put a Mikrotik (or more) on the ends of the
>> broadband fiber connections. VPN from them back to the MT at the
>> datacenter. Your BGP stays at the datacenter, you use the VPNs as internal
>> connectivity to the rest of the network.
>>
>>
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>> *From: *"TJ Trout" <t...@voltbb.com>
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Sunday, April 19, 2015 4:13:09 PM
>>
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Aggrigation of upstream
>>
>> I can't comprehend that, are you offering to do hosted bonding with BGP
>> for me using a mikrotik?
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 5:44 AM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>>
>>> April 18, 2015 8:44 AM
>>>
>>> =====
>>> I'm assuming a Mikrotik at a datacenter where you do BGP with a tunnel
>>> to the destination router's IPs per upstream port. OSPF magic over the
>>> different tunnels.
>>> =====
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
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>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From: *"TJ Trout" <t...@voltbb.com>
>>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>>> *Sent: *Sunday, April 19, 2015 12:23:09 AM
>>>
>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Aggrigation of upstream
>>>
>>> Which one?
>>> On Apr 18, 2015 9:07 PM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> My proposal still stands.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----
>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
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>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> *From: *"TJ Trout" <t...@voltbb.com>
>>>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>>>> *Sent: *Saturday, April 18, 2015 8:23:11 PM
>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Aggrigation of upstream
>>>>
>>>> I'm not talking about any bgp stuff guys, I'm talking about the ability
>>>> to bond several non bgp lines into one virtual pipe that is bgp capable
>>>> (i.e. with a mikrotik in a data center who can give a bgp session) not
>>>> talking about bonding multiple bgp capable lines, etc
>>>> On Apr 18, 2015 4:54 PM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> No community support, no business.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.onesc.net/communities/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----
>>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>>>
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>>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>> *From: *"Paul Stewart" <p...@paulstewart.org>
>>>>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>>>>> *Sent: *Saturday, April 18, 2015 6:42:08 PM
>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Aggrigation of upstream
>>>>>
>>>>> I have used communities a lot...  The problem is non-standard support
>>>>> and no support at all from some of the transit providers…
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
>>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, April 18, 2015 3:35 PM
>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Aggrigation of upstream
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Must not have used communities much? You can exert a lot of control
>>>>> with them.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----
>>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> *From: *"Paul Stewart" <p...@paulstewart.org>
>>>>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>>>>> *Sent: *Saturday, April 18, 2015 2:32:31 PM
>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Aggrigation of upstream
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah the inbound part I’m really skeptical over…
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On
>>>>> Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
>>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, April 18, 2015 9:43 AM
>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Aggrigation of upstream
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Through communities, local prefs, etc. and a few upstreams, you can
>>>>> shape your traffic quite a bit. The InterNAP box is the only one I'm aware
>>>>> of that'll do inbound. Noction has a box that does outbound only and they
>>>>> were working on inbound, but last I knew hadn't finished it yet.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----
>>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>>>
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>>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> *From: *"Paul Stewart" <p...@paulstewart.org>
>>>>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>>>>> *Sent: *Saturday, April 18, 2015 8:26:49 AM
>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Aggrigation of upstream
>>>>>
>>>>> There’s a few of them out there.. I have yet to understand why I would
>>>>> want to buy a big expensive box (and they are NOT cheap) to influence my
>>>>> outbound BGP traffic, knowing that like humans, we can only influence
>>>>> inbound BGP traffic a very limited amount.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On
>>>>> Behalf Of *Lewis Bergman
>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, April 17, 2015 9:34 PM
>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Aggrigation of upstream
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> A few years ago some company proposed an appliance that proclaimed to
>>>>> manage bgp for multiple circuits. Don't know if the they are still around.
>>>>> I personally don't think it is a good investment as so much of the bgp
>>>>> equation depends on the carrier.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 17, 2015 2:47 PM, "TJ Trout" <t...@voltbb.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone know of a service that can take several small business fiber
>>>>> circuits that don't support bgp and bond them and provide a bgp session ?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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