I love these bands, we did a city job on light poles over a highway and needed to put the surge suppressors somewhare, we ended up getting a srteet sign blank and banded it to the pole (this is what holds the signs to poles), mounted all the SS to the blank, it looked like a pretty butterfly
On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 9:20 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: > AT$T has visited the site we share a lot more often than I have. ;-) > Well, once I exclude fixing stuff they've messed up. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Daniel White" <afmu...@gmail.com> > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Sunday, April 26, 2015 4:48:06 PM > > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Stainless steel wire ties > > Sure it will. Even the highest quality stuff. > > > > Had a site back in my WISP days that had LMR-400 running to a licensed > radio head going 50ft up a tower attached every 5ft using 3m tape along the > tower leg. A good snow storm with 100MPH winds came along and ripped the > cable off the tower one day… I think 6 months after installation (so you > can’t blame UV exposure). > > > Went back and used hose clamps (after a helicopter ride later and two > weeks of an area of our network limping along on a backup backhaul path) > and never had issues again. Learned that lesson once after losing a lot of > customers and feeling a lot of frustration (the site was on a 14,000 ft > mountain and wind/snow conditions made it inaccessible during the winter > basically… so it took two weeks for a narrow window to get up there). > > > > Will electrical tape or zip ties fail in most WISP applications for the > life of the cable or installation of the equipment, probably not (heck I > used zip ties on the cable for the SAF Integra radio on the roof of our > office). But SCADA (and even the carriers) operate in a “do it right the > first time by a well-worn and time tested book and never visit the site > again”. It is a CAPEX/OPEX question really… and customers like Jaime is > working with here can’t afford to take the hit on OPEX since it way > outpaces the cost of the upfront CAPEX to overbuild the site. That site > might take hours to get to, and the downtime cost could be in the hundreds > of thousands of dollars. Why risk it on electrical tape vs. band-it (cost > difference is maybe an additional hour of Jaime’s time and $20 in > supplies?). > > > > The greatest gift being on the manufacturing side has given me is the > opportunity to see hundreds of networks and thousands of different ways of > doing things. Some are wrong, many are different shades of right. Some > amaze me at the gratuitous overkill (here is looking at you Ricochet). As > Lewis said in another thread recently, there is a point where spending more > on the grounding system than the equipment it is protecting doesn’t make > sense for an incremental improvement. > > > > Food for thought :-D > > > > *************************************************************************** > > Daniel White - Managing Director > > SAF North America LLC > > Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 > > daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com > > Skype: danieldwhite > Social: LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84> > > > > *************************************************************************** > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *TJ Trout > *Sent:* Sunday, April 26, 2015 1:35 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Stainless steel wire ties > > > > Black tape won't fail in your lifetime > > On Apr 26, 2015 11:32 AM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > > Zip ties will do the same freaking thing if you cut them with diagonal > cutters. > > > > *From:* Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> > > *Sent:* Sunday, April 26, 2015 11:49 AM > > *To:* Animal Farm <af@afmug.com> > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Stainless steel wire ties > > > > Yes that was blood.. I took my gloves off to take pictures and grabbed > tower leg to adjust and got a two inch cut on right thumb. Still healing. > > Jaime Solorza > > > > ------------------------------ > [image: Avast logo] <http://www.avast.com/> > > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > www.avast.com > > > -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
