Does anyone have part numbers for the bands/tool I can reference?
ryan
On 4/27/15 7:12 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
I love these bands, we did a city job on light poles over a highway
and needed to put the surge suppressors somewhare, we ended up getting
a srteet sign blank and banded it to the pole (this is what holds the
signs to poles), mounted all the SS to the blank, it looked like a
pretty butterfly
On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 9:20 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net
<mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
AT$T has visited the site we share a lot more often than I have.
;-) Well, once I exclude fixing stuff they've messed up.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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*From: *"Daniel White" <afmu...@gmail.com <mailto:afmu...@gmail.com>>
*To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Sent: *Sunday, April 26, 2015 4:48:06 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Stainless steel wire ties
Sure it will. Even the highest quality stuff.
Had a site back in my WISP days that had LMR-400 running to a
licensed radio head going 50ft up a tower attached every 5ft using
3m tape along the tower leg. A good snow storm with 100MPH winds
came along and ripped the cable off the tower one day… I think 6
months after installation (so you can’t blame UV exposure).
Went back and used hose clamps (after a helicopter ride later and
two weeks of an area of our network limping along on a backup
backhaul path) and never had issues again. Learned that lesson
once after losing a lot of customers and feeling a lot of
frustration (the site was on a 14,000 ft mountain and wind/snow
conditions made it inaccessible during the winter basically… so it
took two weeks for a narrow window to get up there).
Will electrical tape or zip ties fail in most WISP applications
for the life of the cable or installation of the equipment,
probably not (heck I used zip ties on the cable for the SAF
Integra radio on the roof of our office). But SCADA (and even the
carriers) operate in a “do it right the first time by a well-worn
and time tested book and never visit the site again”. It is a
CAPEX/OPEX question really… and customers like Jaime is working
with here can’t afford to take the hit on OPEX since it way
outpaces the cost of the upfront CAPEX to overbuild the site. That
site might take hours to get to, and the downtime cost could be in
the hundreds of thousands of dollars. Why risk it on electrical
tape vs. band-it (cost difference is maybe an additional hour of
Jaime’s time and $20 in supplies?).
The greatest gift being on the manufacturing side has given me is
the opportunity to see hundreds of networks and thousands of
different ways of doing things. Some are wrong, many are
different shades of right. Some amaze me at the gratuitous
overkill (here is looking at you Ricochet). As Lewis said in
another thread recently, there is a point where spending more on
the grounding system than the equipment it is protecting doesn’t
make sense for an incremental improvement.
Food for thought :-D
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*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *TJ Trout
*Sent:* Sunday, April 26, 2015 1:35 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Stainless steel wire ties
Black tape won't fail in your lifetime
On Apr 26, 2015 11:32 AM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com
<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
Zip ties will do the same freaking thing if you cut them with
diagonal cutters.
*From:*Jaime Solorza <mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
*Sent:*Sunday, April 26, 2015 11:49 AM
*To:*Animal Farm <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Stainless steel wire ties
Yes that was blood.. I took my gloves off to take pictures and
grabbed tower leg to adjust and got a two inch cut on right
thumb. Still healing.
Jaime Solorza
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