+1 Thank you, Brett A Mansfield
> On May 22, 2015, at 6:56 AM, Lewis Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> wrote: > > if someone wants to pay somebody lots of money to fail I am always available. > While I have succeeded at a few things, I have plenty of failures I can put > on my resume. > >> On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 10:24 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net> >> wrote: >> They are spending all that money for 10MHz? Maybe they should merge with >> Vivint. >> >> >> >> Rory >> >> >> >> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof >> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 3:59 PM >> To: af@afmug.com >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] vivint >> >> >> >> That’s OK, supposedly LightSquared has lined up Ivan Seidenberg as their new >> chairman ex-bankruptcy, as well as $1.25 billion in financing. >> >> >> >> http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/verizons-former-ceo-and-former-fcc-chairman-push-lightsquareds-case-directl/2015-05-20 >> >> >> >> I suppose by chairman they mean chairman of the board, not CEO? I thought >> Seidenberg was smarter than your average Baby Bell CEO, but what’s he doing >> with this zombie that refuses to stay dead? >> >> >> >> >> >> From: Sterling Jacobson >> >> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 5:34 PM >> >> To: af@afmug.com >> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] vivint >> >> >> >> Who was that? >> >> >> >> I think Brett and Dean went over? Did Dean leave? >> >> >> >> They tried to head hunt me for that position in 2013, but I was under >> non-compete with the sale of Rapidwave. >> >> >> >> Instead they got Roger Timmerman. >> >> >> >> https://www.linkedin.com/in/rogertimmerman >> >> >> >> It’s a joke, right? >> >> >> >> They got the guy who worked on the failed iProvo Fiber project, that then >> went to become CTO of the (arguably) failed Utopia Utah fiber project and >> put him in charge of a (arguably) failure of a wireless system. >> >> >> >> Makes me laugh. >> >> >> >> But I hear he’s making $$$$ at Vivint, so I guess who’s the one laughing? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Brett A Mansfield >> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 1:33 PM >> To: af@afmug.com >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] vivint >> >> >> >> Haha, funny you mention that! Their recently former COO is now one of my >> customers. He was the Chief Ops Officer specifically for Vivint Wireless. >> >> Thank you, >> >> Brett A Mansfield >> >> >> On May 21, 2015, at 1:26 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: >> >> 5 GHz with FSK doesn’t even penetrate walls and vegetation. Be interesting >> to see what happens to their chief technology officer when the truth begins >> to filter up to the C level. >> >> >> >> From: Rory Conaway >> >> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 1:23 PM >> >> To: af@afmug.com >> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] vivint >> >> >> >> Vivint is also relaying through their internal/half-duplex routers to avoid >> putting antennas on the roof. That was their original idea. They are >> finding out that most people need outdoor installations. For some reason, >> 5GHz with 256QAM doesn’t penetrated outside walls and vegetation. That’s a >> handy piece of information to have when you are planning to spend tens of >> millions of dollars. >> >> >> >> Rory >> >> >> >> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Brett A Mansfield >> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 12:20 PM >> To: af@afmug.com >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] vivint >> >> >> >> I have several customers on 3.65 links, so vivint doesn't interfere with >> their signal. But I had one of these customers call me a week ago and tell >> me they are having massive buffer issues. When I went to check it out I saw >> that Vivint had put up a hub home right next door. My customer said it went >> up two days before and that is when they started having their issue. So >> Vivint is causing so much interference in the 5GHz area that people's home >> routers aren't even working. I gave her a 2.4GHz router and she is happy now. >> >> >> >> So, even if you get the 50Mb to your Vivint device, you won't be able to use >> it over your wireless network in 5GHz. >> >> Thank you, >> >> Brett A Mansfield >> >> >> On May 21, 2015, at 1:08 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote: >> >> Vivint is kind of the worst of every idea. They spend a boatload on >> licensed spectrum, an excessive amount on backhaul radios and co-location >> costs, all of which requires a high-density of users. Then they deploy a >> non-TDMA mesh protocol so that when the density starts to increase, they >> cause their own interference. The 5GHz technology they are deploying can’t >> support the density they need to make this profitable. Then when >> connections don’t work, they deploy hacked together flat-panels to make the >> connection which then causes problems for other users because the flat-panel >> is too directional. I’m really not sure who is designing this but it >> reminds me of the EarthLink mesh deployments. What I can’t figure out is >> how that design gets past a technical and financial review. This is a >> multi-billion dollar, international company. Somebody should have figured >> out that there weren’t going to get 50Mbps through a mesh system >> consistently with vegetation and that the costs weren’t going to be in line >> with the revenue/density. >> >> >> >> Rory >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Joe Falaschi >> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 11:51 AM >> To: af@afmug.com >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] vivint >> >> >> >> I heard they were using this in 28GHz for BH to their micro sites: >> >> >> >> http://cbnl.com/vectastar-gigabit-highlights >> >> >> >> >> >> Joe Falaschi >> >> e-vergent >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On May 21, 2015, at 1:29 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> I think they are sometimes 5Ghz and sometimes something else on the houses. >> >> The backhauls appear to be the unlicensed SAF 20+GHZ stuff to nearby drops. >> >> >> >> Most of those in Saratoga Springs are connected to CentraCom Fiber at the >> schools etc. >> >> >> >> And they are doing 50Mbps for $50 or $60 depending on who you talk to. >> >> >> >> So maybe they outperform DirectCom now, but when you guys get more fiber and >> for a better price they will switch. >> >> >> >> We took over quite a few in some neighborhoods already. >> >> >> >> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown >> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 12:20 PM >> To: af@afmug.com >> Subject: [AFMUG] vivint >> >> >> >> Anyone know if the APs are 5.8 GHz? I saw one going in today. Fed with a >> backhaul with a 2 foot dish. Couldn’t get close enough to see if it was >> licensed or not. The AP antennas look like little whips. At roof top. In >> a very heavy tree’d neighborhood. With trees taller than the houses. With >> a bunch of other WISPs in the area... And I just rolled fiber down that >> street. >> >> >> >> Wonder who will win in the end? >> >
