Customer disconnects.  If you disconnect the radio, the customer starts factory 
resetting things.  With the Patriot system, we suspend the user (using 1hr 
lease times so suspension takes up to 1hr).  A suspended user then sees a 
message (customizable per user suspended .. think “billing issue” or “spamming” 
or whatever you want) letting them know they are suspended and need to call 
customer service.

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 11:36 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] dhcpatriot

I am trying to convince myself that this is not a good idea.  I can’t seem to 
find a compelling reason to authenticate or limit leases.

From: Simon Westlake<mailto:simon.westl...@digitalgunfire.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 12:33 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] dhcpatriot


Or you could even just run wide open DHCP at that point if you don't care about 
authentication or limiting leases.
On May 28, 2015 1:16 PM, "Chuck McCown" 
<ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
Yeah, trying to eliminate the user having to authenticate.  We know the MAC of 
the fiber terminal.  We have control over the DLS lines.  We have to enable 
either the fiber or the phone for them to get service, in my mind that is 
plenty of authentication.

Like to have a user plug and play with no extra steps.  Like to not have any 
more databases.  I really don’t care who the user is etc.  If they can get 
service they are supposed to get service.

From: Simon Westlake<mailto:simon.westl...@digitalgunfire.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 12:08 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] dhcpatriot

You could probably do a really short DHCP lease on the initial walled garden 
IP, I don't know how short DHCP Patriot supports, but I would imagine the 
shortest would probably still be 60 seconds.
On 5/28/2015 12:58 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
Be nice to make it so that a DSL modem/router could power up and just start 
working without any power cycling.

From: Charles Boening<mailto:charl...@calore.net>
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 11:28 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] dhcpatriot

We have had a DHCPatriot system for about 5 years.  We love it.  It’s 
essentially a captive portal.  When a user first connects, they get a private 
IP and policy routing forces them to the portal.  When the user authenticates, 
the system uses a local user database or RADIUS to authenticate the them and if 
successful, ties the MAC address to a username.  Now that the user is known, 
they reboot their device (or release/renew or wait a few minutes) and the 
system assigns an IP address from the authenticated address pool.

Infoblox looks like it has a few more features (some DNS and IPAM stuff).

If you’re in the market for something like the DHCPatriot system, I recommend 
getting a demo.

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Simon Westlake
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 6:31 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] dhcpatriot


I thought it was pretty interesting. Infoblox has a nice DHCP server too.
On May 27, 2015 4:34 PM, "Chuck McCown" 
<ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
Anyone know anything about this product?
http://www.network1.net/products/dhcpatriot/

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