I would have to think that this problem has already been solved for DSL, it certainly has for cable.

On 5/28/2015 1:51 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote:

Probably.

But then what about those customers that want a “permanently” assigned IP?

Maybe you and I should hire out someone to engineer a solution we can both use.

If the change in MAC is tracked, it can (eventually) be re-assigned to the public IP that belongs to them in that case.

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
*Sent:* Thursday, May 28, 2015 12:47 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] dhcpatriot

I presume a log could be created each time an IP is handed out tying it to a MAC.

*From:*Cassidy B. Larson <mailto:c...@infowest.com>

*Sent:*Thursday, May 28, 2015 12:39 PM

*To:*af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>

*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] dhcpatriot

As long as you can track a particular user to an IP for things such as subpoenas, copyright infringement emails, I think you’ll be fine.

    On May 28, 2015, at 12:35 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com
    <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:

    I am trying to convince myself that this is not a good idea.  I
    can’t seem to find a compelling reason to authenticate or limit
    leases.

    *From:*Simon Westlake <mailto:simon.westl...@digitalgunfire.com>

    *Sent:*Thursday, May 28, 2015 12:33 PM

    *To:*af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>

    *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] dhcpatriot

    Or you could even just run wide open DHCP at that point if you
    don't care about authentication or limiting leases.

    On May 28, 2015 1:16 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com
    <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:

        Yeah, trying to eliminate the user having to authenticate.  We
        know the MAC of the fiber terminal.  We have control over the
        DLS lines.  We have to enable either the fiber or the phone
        for them to get service, in my mind that is plenty of
        authentication.

        Like to have a user plug and play with no extra steps. Like to
        not have any more databases.  I really don’t care who the user
        is etc. If they can get service they are supposed to get service.

        *From:*Simon Westlake <mailto:simon.westl...@digitalgunfire.com>

        *Sent:*Thursday, May 28, 2015 12:08 PM

        *To:*af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>

        *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] dhcpatriot

        You could probably do a really short DHCP lease on the initial
        walled garden IP, I don't know how short DHCP Patriot
        supports, but I would imagine the shortest would probably
        still be 60 seconds.

        On 5/28/2015 12:58 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

            Be nice to make it so that a DSL modem/router could power
            up and just start working without any power cycling.

            *From:*Charles Boening <mailto:charl...@calore.net>

            *Sent:*Thursday, May 28, 2015 11:28 AM

            *To:*af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>

            *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] dhcpatriot

            We have had a DHCPatriot system for about 5 years.  We
            love it.  It’s essentially a captive portal.  When a user
            first connects, they get a private IP and policy routing
            forces them to the portal.  When the user authenticates,
            the system uses a local user database or RADIUS to
            authenticate the them and if successful, ties the MAC
            address to a username.  Now that the user is known, they
            reboot their device (or release/renew or wait a few
            minutes) and the system assigns an IP address from the
            authenticated address pool.

            Infoblox looks like it has a few more features (some DNS
            and IPAM stuff).

            If you’re in the market for something like the DHCPatriot
            system, I recommend getting a demo.

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            *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of
            *Simon Westlake
            *Sent:* Thursday, May 28, 2015 6:31 AM
            *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
            *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] dhcpatriot

            I thought it was pretty interesting. Infoblox has a nice
            DHCP server too.

            On May 27, 2015 4:34 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com
            <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:

                Anyone know anything about this product?

                http://www.network1.net/products/dhcpatriot/


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