are you getting the connectorized performance gains within fcc eirp? Ive
come to find a good majority of field test results are invalid solely
because the tests are not performed legally

On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 10:27 AM, Paul McCall <pa...@pdmnet.net> wrote:

>  On the SM side, we did not try connectorized 3.65 450 SMs.
>
>
>
> In our past experience with 320s, the SMCs used with a KP Performance 3.65
> feedhorn reflector got less results at times for NLOS shots then a standard
> SM.  It was explained to me that is because it’s not a “need more power,
> burn through trees issue”… it’s a “don’t narrow the beam so much than the
> wimax can’t work around the tree elements” issue.
>
>
>
> Our testing exposure was rather limited and we stopped when others on the
> list confirmed they had similar results.
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ben Royer
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 04, 2015 11:18 AM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 320 series - still using
>
>
>
> Paul,
>
>
>
> Thanks for the response.  More specifically I’m interested in the SM side
> of the test, as we too are using the Cambium Antennas at the AP.  However,
> at the SM side, I’d recommend a NLOS test using a connectorized radio with
> a higher gain antenna.  We’ve seen some initial NLOS tests where 450 out
> performs the 320.
>
>
>
> Thank you,
> Ben Royer, Operations Manager
> Royell Communications, Inc.
> 217-965-3699 www.royell.net
>
>
>
> *From:* Paul McCall <pa...@pdmnet.net>
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 04, 2015 8:30 AM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 320 series - still using
>
>
>
> Ben,
>
>
>
> The testing was based on using the standard Cambium antenna, respectively,
> for both platforms.
>
>
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On
> Behalf Of *Ben Royer
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 04, 2015 9:11 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 320 series - still using
>
>
>
> What antenna are you using in your testing of the 450 vs. 320 NLOS?  I’m
> just curious because this is an interesting report, as we have a network of
> around 2,500 320 customers, and we are in the same position of looking for
> that next great thing.
>
>
>
> Thank you,
> Ben Royer, Operations Manager
> Royell Communications, Inc.
> 217-965-3699 www.royell.net
>
>
>
> *From:* Paul McCall <pa...@pdmnet.net>
>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 03, 2015 4:40 PM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 320 series - still using
>
>
>
> But, if you are using 320 for NLOS solutions, the 450 trade up means
> you’re going to lose customers since the 450 doesn’t do nearly as good a
> job as the 320
>
>
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On
> Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 03, 2015 5:37 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 320 series - still using
>
>
>
> Don’t they have another WiMAX-to-450 tradeup going on?  Kind of a 3650 MHz
> cash-for-clunkers program.
>
>
>
> *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 03, 2015 4:08 PM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 320 series - still using
>
>
>
> Im stuck with it. We bought an overstock load of APs and SMs. We have a
> dream of Telrad working out to save the day with their firmware load. Some
> creative Telrad AP deployments gradually replacing the 320 APs, utilizing
> the 320 CPEs until we migrate the site to LTE with telrad CPEs, giving us
> 320 CPEs to redeploy.
>
>
>
> The dream is somebody will write some magic code to sit on an intermediary
> server to communicate with the FCC database thing so we can redeploy the
> 320 APs to small sites.
>
>
>
> We had two test sites for the 450. One site landlord hasnt allowed us up
> there to swap equipment, we have to deal with that on the lease side and
> our other 450 test site has only 3 users on it with good links so we havent
> been able to test the 1x magic out.
>
>
>
> I would have preferred to more aggressively pursue the 450 and be able to
> sell higher throughput higher dollar connections, to offset the potential
> nlos customers we would lose. something about being able to sync with
> competitors down the road seemed like a good idea to me, especially with an
> AP with 3x the throughput and the whole not using gear thats end of life,
> but i am but a lowly sysadmin with no access to the purse strings.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 3:26 PM, Paul McCall <pa...@pdmnet.net> wrote:
>
> I am just curious how many of you have decided to keep using the 320
> series because it goes through trees a lot better than the 450 series 3.65
> product?
>
>
>
> Are you expanding with it as far as towers go?  Or, are you just adding
> SMs to what you already have?
>
>
>
> Paul
>
>
>
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