I would probably buy some, not specifically for NLOS though. We would use them where we use a CLIP now in 5 GHz. So we wouldn’t buy a ton of them, maybe 20% of 3.65 SMs. I guess it would depend on the price, if it cost $200 more than a regular SM, then we would probably tell most people sorry, you’re getting a reflector dish.
But for example, I have a bare SM at a tollway oasis now that could use a little more antenna gain, but with the mounting restrictions, we can’t use a reflector dish (it’s an MTOW attached to the privacy fence on the rooftop). I would go back and put an integrated panel there if one was available, because it is a business customer and the extra margin would be worth the money. From: Matt Mangriotis Sent: Monday, June 08, 2015 9:18 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i Couple of things… We are definitely looking into putting the 3.65 PMP 450 SM into a high gain panel in order to provide a solution (that’s not an offset reflector). We feel like this could represent the right balance between gain and directionality to increase the chances of working better in near and Non-LOS situations. We believe that this could be approved under our existing FCC grant. I don’t have a timeline on this yet… but is there interest in this from you guys? Also, the 5 GHz PMP 450i was certified for 5.8 GHz under 15.247. Matt From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2015 10:38 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i But what about new equipment authorizations? I think the timing in the 450i was to get it in before the old 5 GHz rules turned into a pumpkin. I’m wondering if it is still possible to get new or modified equipment approved under Part 90. Actually, I’ll have to read the test report on the 450i to see if they went with 15.247 or 15.407 for 5.7 GHz. From: George Skorup Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2015 10:00 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i Yes, I remember Steve saying that. Equipment can still be manufactured, sold and used under Part 90, if you have the NN license anyway. On 6/7/2015 6:48 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: I think Steve Coran said on the WISPA list that new equipment can still be certified for the old rules at this point... but I'm not completely certain that I'm remembering that right. On Sun, Jun 7, 2015 at 5:55 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: It’s still a question I don’t know the answer to. If any 3650 equipment manufacturer, even Mercury or Telrad, wanted to release some new hardware variant at this point, could they? Or are equipment approvals in the same boat as NN licenses? From: George Skorup Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2015 5:40 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i I think the 450i is only going to be 5GHz. We'd probably be better off asking WB or KP to make us a 3GHz panel for use with the connectorized SM. Or... maybe a slant SuperStinger so we don't have to buy the more expensive connectorized SM. That didn't work out so well for 2.4, but maybe 3.6 is possible? On 6/7/2015 5:18 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: I should know the answer, but is there going to be an integrated panel version of the 3.65 GHz SM? My real question, I guess, is whether new equipment approvals can go through under the old Part 90 rules? Or has the FCC essentially frozen the equipment market in that band for the next year or so? An integrated 12-15 inch diamond shaped panel would have been nice, although I’d probably settle for some better choices of external dual slant panels that don’t cost an arm and a leg but also aren’t junk. Maybe something like this, except it doesn’t seem to actually exist in real life, and judging from other Mars panels, would be way too expensive: http://www.mars-antennas.com/MA-WA36-DP19 From: Matt Mangriotis Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 3:33 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i Regarding official launch and availability… the PMP 450i is scheduled to be publicly announced and officially released in July. We will have several sets of Beta test and demo equipment around in late June, so you’ll be seeing it around more at that time. Matt From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of David Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 2:39 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i Its too bad I did not get 150 of those instead of the regular ones. next batch I will get a few of em to let our techs install. They are already had a heads up about this and have been waiting for me to order them. On 05/29/2015 02:10 PM, Matt Mangriotis wrote: Nah… if it were, it would be the i450. The “i” is very special and means different things to different folks… this thing is much more than just “integrated”. It’s the next generation of hardware, and brings more performance to the table (both physical and RF). Keep the questions coming. Matt On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 1:59 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: It's made by Apple. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Adam Moffett" <dmmoff...@gmail.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 1:56:09 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i So....the "i" is for "integrated" antenna? Or is there something more special about it?
