I agree, it would depend on the price... if the price is similar, I would definitely prefer a panel to using reflectors.
I hadn't thought about that, but if the existing SM is approved to be used with a panel, there really shouldn't be any reason it couldn't be sold as an integrated package... On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 10:06 AM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: > I would probably buy some, not specifically for NLOS though. We would > use them where we use a CLIP now in 5 GHz. So we wouldn’t buy a ton of > them, maybe 20% of 3.65 SMs. I guess it would depend on the price, if it > cost $200 more than a regular SM, then we would probably tell most people > sorry, you’re getting a reflector dish. > > But for example, I have a bare SM at a tollway oasis now that could use a > little more antenna gain, but with the mounting restrictions, we can’t use > a reflector dish (it’s an MTOW attached to the privacy fence on the > rooftop). I would go back and put an integrated panel there if one was > available, because it is a business customer and the extra margin would be > worth the money. > > > *From:* Matt Mangriotis <matt.mangrio...@cambiumnetworks.com> > *Sent:* Monday, June 08, 2015 9:18 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i > > > Couple of things… > > > > We are definitely looking into putting the 3.65 PMP 450 SM into a high > gain panel in order to provide a solution (that’s not an offset > reflector). We feel like this could represent the right balance between > gain and directionality to increase the chances of working better in near > and Non-LOS situations. > > > > We believe that this could be approved under our existing FCC grant. I > don’t have a timeline on this yet… but is there interest in this from you > guys? > > > > Also, the 5 GHz PMP 450i was certified for 5.8 GHz under 15.247. > > > > Matt > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof > *Sent:* Sunday, June 07, 2015 10:38 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i > > > > But what about new equipment authorizations? I think the timing in the > 450i was to get it in before the old 5 GHz rules turned into a pumpkin. > I’m wondering if it is still possible to get new or modified equipment > approved under Part 90. > > > > Actually, I’ll have to read the test report on the 450i to see if they > went with 15.247 or 15.407 for 5.7 GHz. > > > > > > *From:* George Skorup <geo...@cbcast.com> > > *Sent:* Sunday, June 07, 2015 10:00 PM > > *To:* af@afmug.com > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i > > > > Yes, I remember Steve saying that. Equipment can still be manufactured, > sold and used under Part 90, if you have the NN license anyway. > > On 6/7/2015 6:48 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: > > I think Steve Coran said on the WISPA list that new equipment can still > be certified for the old rules at this point... but I'm not completely > certain that I'm remembering that right. > > > > On Sun, Jun 7, 2015 at 5:55 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: > > It’s still a question I don’t know the answer to. If any 3650 > equipment manufacturer, even Mercury or Telrad, wanted to release some new > hardware variant at this point, could they? Or are equipment approvals in > the same boat as NN licenses? > > > > > > *From:* George Skorup <geo...@cbcast.com> > > *Sent:* Sunday, June 07, 2015 5:40 PM > > *To:* af@afmug.com > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i > > > > I think the 450i is only going to be 5GHz. > > We'd probably be better off asking WB or KP to make us a 3GHz panel for > use with the connectorized SM. Or... maybe a slant SuperStinger so we don't > have to buy the more expensive connectorized SM. That didn't work out so > well for 2.4, but maybe 3.6 is possible? > > On 6/7/2015 5:18 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > > I should know the answer, but is there going to be an integrated panel > version of the 3.65 GHz SM? > > > > My real question, I guess, is whether new equipment approvals can go > through under the old Part 90 rules? Or has the FCC essentially frozen the > equipment market in that band for the next year or so? An integrated 12-15 > inch diamond shaped panel would have been nice, although I’d probably > settle for some better choices of external dual slant panels that don’t > cost an arm and a leg but also aren’t junk. > > > > Maybe something like this, except it doesn’t seem to actually exist in > real life, and judging from other Mars panels, would be way too expensive: > > http://www.mars-antennas.com/MA-WA36-DP19 > > > > *From:* Matt Mangriotis <matt.mangrio...@cambiumnetworks.com> > > *Sent:* Friday, May 29, 2015 3:33 PM > > *To:* af@afmug.com > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i > > > > Regarding *official* launch and availability… the PMP 450i is scheduled > to be publicly announced and officially released in July. We will have > several sets of Beta test and demo equipment around in late June, so you’ll > be seeing it around more at that time. > > > > Matt > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On > Behalf Of *David > *Sent:* Friday, May 29, 2015 2:39 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i > > > > Its too bad I did not get 150 of those instead of the regular ones. > next batch I will get a few of em to let our techs install. They are > already > had a heads up about this and have been waiting for me to order them. > > On 05/29/2015 02:10 PM, Matt Mangriotis wrote: > > Nah… if it were, it would be the i450. > > > > > > The “i” is very special and means different things to different folks… > this thing is much more than just “integrated”. It’s the next generation > of hardware, and brings more performance to the table (both physical and > RF). > > > > Keep the questions coming. > > > > Matt > > > > > > On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 1:59 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: > > It's made by Apple. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"Adam Moffett" <dmmoff...@gmail.com> > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Friday, May 29, 2015 1:56:09 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i > > So....the "i" is for "integrated" antenna? > Or is there something more special about it? > > > > > > > > > > > > >
