“It is impossible to make anything foolproof, because fools are so ingenious.”
- corollary to Murphy’s Law


From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 3:19 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

If you fool proof something, all you're doing is making a better fool.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 4:17 PM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:

  Absotutely. I actually had a subscriber argue with me about the "correct" 
connection required for a Tycon POE (which I consider fairly straightforward 
and easy to understand). Yet he insisted that it be connected the opposite way.

  Where upon, I had to reverse the connection, show him that it worked. Only 
then was he satisfied that it was "correct", but poorly labeled.

  At that point, I covered up the Tycon labeling, and pasted on labeling that 
satisfied him. Now everybody is happy.

  Never underestimate the ability of a non-technical person to misunderstand 
labels and/or instructions.


bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 6/25/2015 1:10 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

    Are you serious?  There was a bright red sticker on Pac/Tycon POEs and 
people still screwed it up.


    Josh Luthman
    Office: 937-552-2340
    Direct: 937-552-2343
    1100 Wayne St
    Suite 1337
    Troy, OH 45373

    On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 4:02 PM, Paul McCall <pa...@pdmnet.net> wrote:

      Sean, what is the major complaint?  Is it that the installer or customer 
gets confused which port goes where?  You could put stickers on things to avoid 
that.



      From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sean Heskett
      Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 3:57 PM
      To: af@afmug.com
      Cc: memb...@wispa.org
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/



      Ray can you please come and hang out with one of my clients for a day and 
hand them each POE and see which one they can hook up and which one they can't??



      Just because you have made this decision doesn't mean it's a good 
decision and we are asking cambium to reconsider.  The new POE sucks!  Period!



      2cents

      On Thursday, June 25, 2015, Ray Savich <ray.sav...@cambiumnetworks.com> 
wrote:

      Check out the details at 
http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PMP-450/Canopy-POE-end-of-life/m-p/41732
 

      Ray



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      From: members-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:members-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Sean Heskett
      Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 10:38 AM
      To: af@afmug.com
      Cc: memb...@wispa.org
      Subject: Re: [WISPA Members] Canopy POE end of life :-/



      Thanks for the link josh.  They normally cost ~$10 so the eBay price of 
$24 is someone trying to make a buck on them before they are gone.  Also 
eventually eBay will run out too so that's not a long term solution.



      Come on cambium listen to your long time loyal customers!



      -Sean



      On Thursday, June 25, 2015, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> 
wrote:

      
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xcanopy+power+supply.TRS0&_nkw=canopy+power+supply&_sacat=0





      Josh Luthman
      Office: 937-552-2340
      Direct: 937-552-2343
      1100 Wayne St
      Suite 1337
      Troy, OH 45373



      On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote:

      Dear Cambium,



      Why won't you let us buy the ACPSSW-13B POE if we still want to?



      It's very frustrating that we now have to change our install procedures 
AND our tech support procedures.  The new POE is also very cumbersome and prone 
to clients plugging things in backwards etc.



      Can you either keep selling them or give us access to the manufacturer so 
that we can still buy them?



      -Sean




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