Plus DC sites are better in 24 than 48 volts.

Josh Luthman
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On Jun 26, 2015 12:49 AM, "Colin Stanners" <cstann...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Cambium couldn't use standard poe because when they started development -
> around 2000? - such a thing didn't exist, the AF standard came out in 2003.
> Also if they had used 48v the POE injectors would cost about 3x as much.
> On Jun 25, 2015 8:04 PM, "Sean Heskett" <af...@zirkel.us> wrote:
>
>> i'm just saying that the financial decision for carrying the old and new
>> poe goes deeper than how much they may or may not be making on the poe.
>>
>> cambium after all is in the business of selling light bulbs (SMs) and if
>> you need a special socket to use their light bulb it might behoove them to
>> continue selling the socket AND the light bulb.
>>
>> unfortunately this all goes back to the very beginning of not using a
>> standard poe product.
>>
>> by the way we are not planning to move all new installs to telrad that
>> statement was for dramatic effect ;-)
>>
>> -sean
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 6:50 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>>
>>>   This is sounding like Jack Nicholson trying to get his whole wheat
>>> toast in Five Easy Pieces.
>>>
>>>  *From:* Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us>
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 25, 2015 7:32 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/
>>>
>>>  but if i decide to completely move all new installs to telrad they
>>> would be very sad puppies.
>>>
>>> just sayin
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 6:26 PM, <cstann...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  How much do you think they make per Canopy PSU after the stockkeeping
>>>> / freight /organizational work? $3 ? I'm sure losing those sales won't keep
>>>> them up at night.
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> *From: *TJ Trout <t...@voltbb.com>
>>>> *Sender: *"Af" <af-boun...@afmug.com>
>>>> *Date: *Fri, 26 Jun 2015 00:12:22 +0000
>>>> *To: *<af@afmug.com>
>>>> *ReplyTo: *af@afmug.com
>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/
>>>>
>>>> That will be really funny if CTI sources them and moto looses out on a
>>>> bunch of sales, lol
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 5:03 PM, Colin Stanners <cstann...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> With the speed keys and regional variants they have a large amount of
>>>>> product stock already, I imagine they're not trying to keep old items and
>>>>> didn't see a big reason people would want the old-style PSUs.
>>>>>
>>>>> I thought CTI had gotten some PSUs straight from the manufacturer
>>>>> years ago when there was a Motorola shortage, you could check with them.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 6:47 PM, Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Which is great...for you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why can't I have a choice?  Why are they taking it away if there is
>>>>>> still demand?  Why won't they let us go straight to whatever manufacturer
>>>>>> they get them from??
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thursday, June 25, 2015, Colin Stanners <cstann...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   I'm one of those that prefer the new PoE:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -less outlet space needed
>>>>>>> -gigabit option (current 450 SMs can reach 75mbit down so it's
>>>>>>> likely next generation will hit 100+)
>>>>>>> -can choose whatever cable length is needed to go to PC/router.
>>>>>>> -won't have the broken RJ tab / wires pulling out of the RJ due to
>>>>>>> cable weight issues of the current PoE model
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> With very big "TO COMPUTER / ROUTER"   "TO OUTSIDE ANTENNA" labels,
>>>>>>> on both sides of the unit, customer wiring mistakes will be almost
>>>>>>> eliminated. I haven't seen that as a big problem on the PMP320.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 2:57 PM, Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ray can you please come and hang out with one of my clients for a
>>>>>>>> day and hand them each POE and see which one they can hook up and 
>>>>>>>> which one
>>>>>>>> they can't??
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Just because you have made this decision doesn't mean it's a good
>>>>>>>> decision and we are asking cambium to reconsider.  The new POE sucks!
>>>>>>>> Period!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2cents
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thursday, June 25, 2015, Ray Savich <
>>>>>>>> ray.sav...@cambiumnetworks.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Check out the details at
>>>>>>>>> http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PMP-450/Canopy-POE-end-of-life/m-p/41732
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ray
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Join the Conversation
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cambium Networks Community Forum
>>>>>>>>> <http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *From:* members-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:
>>>>>>>>> members-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Sean Heskett
>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 25, 2015 10:38 AM
>>>>>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>>>>>>> *Cc:* memb...@wispa.org
>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA Members] Canopy POE end of life :-/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the link josh.  They normally cost ~$10 so the eBay
>>>>>>>>> price of $24 is someone trying to make a buck on them before they are
>>>>>>>>> gone.  Also eventually eBay will run out too so that's not a long term
>>>>>>>>> solution.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Come on cambium listen to your long time loyal customers!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -Sean
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, June 25, 2015, Josh Luthman <
>>>>>>>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xcanopy+power+supply.TRS0&_nkw=canopy+power+supply&_sacat=0
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dear Cambium,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Why won't you let us buy the ACPSSW-13B POE if we still want to?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's very frustrating that we now have to change our install
>>>>>>>>> procedures AND our tech support procedures.  The new POE is also very
>>>>>>>>> cumbersome and prone to clients plugging things in backwards etc.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Can you either keep selling them or give us access to the
>>>>>>>>> manufacturer so that we can still buy them?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -Sean
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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