Plus DC sites are better in 24 than 48 volts. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jun 26, 2015 12:49 AM, "Colin Stanners" <cstann...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Cambium couldn't use standard poe because when they started development - > around 2000? - such a thing didn't exist, the AF standard came out in 2003. > Also if they had used 48v the POE injectors would cost about 3x as much. > On Jun 25, 2015 8:04 PM, "Sean Heskett" <af...@zirkel.us> wrote: > >> i'm just saying that the financial decision for carrying the old and new >> poe goes deeper than how much they may or may not be making on the poe. >> >> cambium after all is in the business of selling light bulbs (SMs) and if >> you need a special socket to use their light bulb it might behoove them to >> continue selling the socket AND the light bulb. >> >> unfortunately this all goes back to the very beginning of not using a >> standard poe product. >> >> by the way we are not planning to move all new installs to telrad that >> statement was for dramatic effect ;-) >> >> -sean >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 6:50 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: >> >>> This is sounding like Jack Nicholson trying to get his whole wheat >>> toast in Five Easy Pieces. >>> >>> *From:* Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> >>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 25, 2015 7:32 PM >>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/ >>> >>> but if i decide to completely move all new installs to telrad they >>> would be very sad puppies. >>> >>> just sayin >>> >>> On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 6:26 PM, <cstann...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> How much do you think they make per Canopy PSU after the stockkeeping >>>> / freight /organizational work? $3 ? I'm sure losing those sales won't keep >>>> them up at night. >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> *From: *TJ Trout <t...@voltbb.com> >>>> *Sender: *"Af" <af-boun...@afmug.com> >>>> *Date: *Fri, 26 Jun 2015 00:12:22 +0000 >>>> *To: *<af@afmug.com> >>>> *ReplyTo: *af@afmug.com >>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/ >>>> >>>> That will be really funny if CTI sources them and moto looses out on a >>>> bunch of sales, lol >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 5:03 PM, Colin Stanners <cstann...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> With the speed keys and regional variants they have a large amount of >>>>> product stock already, I imagine they're not trying to keep old items and >>>>> didn't see a big reason people would want the old-style PSUs. >>>>> >>>>> I thought CTI had gotten some PSUs straight from the manufacturer >>>>> years ago when there was a Motorola shortage, you could check with them. >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 6:47 PM, Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Which is great...for you. >>>>>> >>>>>> Why can't I have a choice? Why are they taking it away if there is >>>>>> still demand? Why won't they let us go straight to whatever manufacturer >>>>>> they get them from?? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thursday, June 25, 2015, Colin Stanners <cstann...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm one of those that prefer the new PoE: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -less outlet space needed >>>>>>> -gigabit option (current 450 SMs can reach 75mbit down so it's >>>>>>> likely next generation will hit 100+) >>>>>>> -can choose whatever cable length is needed to go to PC/router. >>>>>>> -won't have the broken RJ tab / wires pulling out of the RJ due to >>>>>>> cable weight issues of the current PoE model >>>>>>> >>>>>>> With very big "TO COMPUTER / ROUTER" "TO OUTSIDE ANTENNA" labels, >>>>>>> on both sides of the unit, customer wiring mistakes will be almost >>>>>>> eliminated. I haven't seen that as a big problem on the PMP320. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 2:57 PM, Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ray can you please come and hang out with one of my clients for a >>>>>>>> day and hand them each POE and see which one they can hook up and >>>>>>>> which one >>>>>>>> they can't?? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Just because you have made this decision doesn't mean it's a good >>>>>>>> decision and we are asking cambium to reconsider. The new POE sucks! >>>>>>>> Period! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2cents >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thursday, June 25, 2015, Ray Savich < >>>>>>>> ray.sav...@cambiumnetworks.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Check out the details at >>>>>>>>> http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PMP-450/Canopy-POE-end-of-life/m-p/41732 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Ray >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Join the Conversation >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Cambium Networks Community Forum >>>>>>>>> <http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *From:* members-boun...@wispa.org [mailto: >>>>>>>>> members-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Sean Heskett >>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 25, 2015 10:38 AM >>>>>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>>>>>>> *Cc:* memb...@wispa.org >>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA Members] Canopy POE end of life :-/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks for the link josh. They normally cost ~$10 so the eBay >>>>>>>>> price of $24 is someone trying to make a buck on them before they are >>>>>>>>> gone. Also eventually eBay will run out too so that's not a long term >>>>>>>>> solution. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Come on cambium listen to your long time loyal customers! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -Sean >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thursday, June 25, 2015, Josh Luthman < >>>>>>>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xcanopy+power+supply.TRS0&_nkw=canopy+power+supply&_sacat=0 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Dear Cambium, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Why won't you let us buy the ACPSSW-13B POE if we still want to? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It's very frustrating that we now have to change our install >>>>>>>>> procedures AND our tech support procedures. The new POE is also very >>>>>>>>> cumbersome and prone to clients plugging things in backwards etc. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Can you either keep selling them or give us access to the >>>>>>>>> manufacturer so that we can still buy them? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -Sean >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Members mailing list >>>>>>>>> memb...@wispa.org >>>>>>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/members >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >>