Is this only from LLNW? I swear I've seen it from other CDNs as well. I don't see any way around this other than throwing bandwidth at it. And as you mention, this means upstream bandwidth and backhaul links between towers.

On 7/8/2015 5:50 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
This has been discussed in previous threads, but I just got off a call with a customer where I was able to identify what content was being distributed via LLNW and causing problems. Customer had bought a new Xbox and it was downloading game updates. He was complaining that the game update seemed stuck getting to 100%, plus Internet on his other devices was painfully slow.

LLNW seems to aim for 50% packet loss. I always seem to see almost exactly 2X the customer's rate limit hitting our border router. Of course this causes all traffic to that customer to experience random 50% packet loss, which few applications can tolerate. It is also consuming our upstream and backhaul bandwidth beyond what the customer has subscribed to, since we do rate limiting at the tower router.

Other than getting a Procera box and setting up some kind of rule to catch this at the border (plus maybe a penalty for LLNW being such dicks), I don't know what to do about this, but it pisses me off.


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