The laws appear to vary by state, but it looks like you generally would
need permission to fly these things over private property, since they have
to be below 500' - but I base this all on 5 minutes spent on Google, so I'm
likely as not wrong.

On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 4:47 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> Real planes have to maintain a 500 foot separation from vehicles,
> buildings and people unless taking off or landing.
>
> *From:* Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net>
> *Sent:* Monday, August 17, 2015 3:45 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] What to do when the Internet is down...
>
> What rules apply to traditional RC planes, real planes?
>
>
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> *From: *"Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com>
> *To: *"af" <af@afmug.com>
> *Sent: *Monday, August 17, 2015 4:42:11 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] What to do when the Internet is down...
>
> I'm assuming it is, but if they're flying low over my property without
> permission, it's pretty much trespassing, isn't it?
>
> On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 4:38 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>
>> I can only assume it is.
>>
>>
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>> *From: *"Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com>
>> *To: *"af" <af@afmug.com>
>> *Sent: *Monday, August 17, 2015 1:04:44 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] What to do when the Internet is down...
>>
>> I wonder if it's illegal to shoot them down if they're flying on your
>> property...
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 12:59 PM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Right, but you WANT it to fly home so you can follow it.  At 2.4ghz the
>>> operator can't be too far away and you want to find him so you can shoot
>>> him ask him to leave your property
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8/17/2015 1:58 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>>
>>> I think there is much bigger fine for jamming those frequencies.
>>>
>>> *From:* Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com>
>>> *Sent:* Monday, August 17, 2015 11:56 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] What to do when the Internet is down...
>>>
>>> You would have to jam GPS as well, since most will fly home if they lose
>>> WiFi contact.  Unless you deauth the pilot’s WiFi and take control of the
>>> drone.
>>>
>>> *From:* Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com>
>>> *Sent:* Monday, August 17, 2015 12:53 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] What to do when the Internet is down...
>>>
>>> OK, but specifically.....
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com>
>>> *Sent:* Monday, August 17, 2015 11:49 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] What to do when the Internet is down...
>>>
>>> Part15
>>>
>>> On 8/17/2015 1:49 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>>
>>> I wonder what frequencies they use for the flight controls?
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
>>> *Sent:* Monday, August 17, 2015 11:46 AM
>>> *To:* Animal Farm <af@afmug.com>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] What to do when the Internet is down...
>>>
>>>
>>> No.   Not legal.  He knows it.  I want to see one in action from a
>>> scientific point of view.  I know I have enough stuff in batcave to make
>>> one.  Simple jammer is to connect several APs with 40 or 80Mhz channels and
>>> cause intentional loop back.   Or video transmitter with larger antenna.  I
>>> have done both as demonstration to Physics  class students when I worked at
>>> Tornillo ISD to talk about Faraday cage and RF signal behavior.
>>> On Aug 17, 2015 11:16 AM, "Jay Weekley" <par...@cyberbroadband.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Are those legal?
>>>>
>>>> Jaime Solorza wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Friend of mine in the valley ordered a drone jammer. Says teenagers
>>>>> from nearby farm flying it over his families pool.    Going to try to make
>>>>> it drop on his property or Rio Grande.   Told him to call me when he gets
>>>>> it.  Lots of idiots with drones out there
>>>>>
>>>>> On Aug 17, 2015 10:57 AM, "Steve D" <bigd...@gmail.com <mailto:
>>>>> bigd...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>     The particular fires are in southern BC along the US/Canada border
>>>>>     from Osoyoos over to Rock Creek/Kettle Valley area.
>>>>>
>>>>>     We've got a temporary service in place relayed from a neighboring
>>>>>     WISP now.  It's not a lot, but it's something.  Another community
>>>>>     north of there is completely in the dark due to the fires to the
>>>>>     south... no phone lines, no power, not even cell.  Logistically,
>>>>>     there's nothing we can do for this community right now either.
>>>>>     Reports indicate the power company is setting up a generator.
>>>>>
>>>>>     30 homes were lost in Rock Creek so far, and then there's an
>>>>>     effin' idiot flying a drone which has caused the air support for
>>>>>     the fire to be grounded yesterday. Now *THERE* is someone I hope
>>>>>     the black suits find...
>>>>>
>>>>>     -Steve D
>>>>>
>>>>>     On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 6:30 AM, D. Ryan Spott <rsp...@ngc457.com
>>>>>     <mailto:rsp...@ngc457.com>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>         Where are you at Steve?
>>>>>
>>>>>         ryan
>>>>>
>>>>>         --         D. Ryan Spott | NGC457, llc
>>>>>         broadband | telco | colo | communities
>>>>>         PO Box 1734 Sultan, WA 98294
>>>>>         425-939-0047 <tel:425-939-0047>
>>>>>
>>>>>         On Aug 16, 2015, at 12:52, Steve D <bigd...@gmail.com
>>>>>         <mailto:bigd...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>         We had a bad situation this week where wildfire took out our
>>>>>>         upstream's fiber in one valley which we relay wirelessly over
>>>>>>         to another valley.  We had calls from people angry that we
>>>>>>         weren't driving through the roadblocks to fix it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         :(
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         -Steve D
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com
>>>>>>         <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             The last row are me during a thunderstorm.
>>>>>>             *From:* D. Ryan Spott <mailto:rsp...@ngc457.com>
>>>>>>             *Sent:* Sunday, August 16, 2015 2:07 PM
>>>>>>             *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> ;
>>>>>>             memb...@wispa.org <mailto:memb...@wispa.org>
>>>>>>             *Subject:* [AFMUG] What to do when the Internet is down...
>>>>>>             Normally these comics are just humor. The 'complain to
>>>>>>             your local congressman' is what got me to send it to this
>>>>>>             group.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             ryan
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             <eijjfgai.png>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             --             D. Ryan Spott | NGC457, llc
>>>>>>             broadband | telco | colo | communities
>>>>>>             PO Box 1734 Sultan, WA 98294
>>>>>>             425-939-0047  <tel:425-939-0047>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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