The laws haven't caught up to the reality of the situation yet. I heard of a man being arrested for shooting one down when he thought they were spying on his daughters in their pool.
Jeff Broadwick ConVergence Technologies, Inc. 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@converge-tech.com > On Aug 17, 2015, at 6:28 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Many ranchers and farmers around here would just as much shoot them down if > they are on their property. > >> On Aug 17, 2015 3:59 PM, "Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote: >> The laws appear to vary by state, but it looks like you generally would need >> permission to fly these things over private property, since they have to be >> below 500' - but I base this all on 5 minutes spent on Google, so I'm likely >> as not wrong. >> >>> On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 4:47 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: >>> Real planes have to maintain a 500 foot separation from vehicles, buildings >>> and people unless taking off or landing. >>> >>> From: Mike Hammett >>> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 3:45 PM >>> To: af@afmug.com >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What to do when the Internet is down... >>> >>> What rules apply to traditional RC planes, real planes? >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> http://www.ics-il.com >>> >>> >>> >>> Midwest Internet Exchange >>> http://www.midwest-ix.com >>> >>> >>> From: "Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com> >>> To: "af" <af@afmug.com> >>> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 4:42:11 PM >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What to do when the Internet is down... >>> >>> I'm assuming it is, but if they're flying low over my property without >>> permission, it's pretty much trespassing, isn't it? >>> >>>> On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 4:38 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: >>>> I can only assume it is. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- >>>> Mike Hammett >>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>>> http://www.ics-il.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Midwest Internet Exchange >>>> http://www.midwest-ix.com >>>> >>>> >>>> From: "Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com> >>>> To: "af" <af@afmug.com> >>>> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 1:04:44 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What to do when the Internet is down... >>>> >>>> I wonder if it's illegal to shoot them down if they're flying on your >>>> property... >>>> >>>>> On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 12:59 PM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> Right, but you WANT it to fly home so you can follow it. At 2.4ghz the >>>>> operator can't be too far away and you want to find him so you can shoot >>>>> him ask him to leave your property >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 8/17/2015 1:58 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: >>>>> I think there is much bigger fine for jamming those frequencies. >>>>> >>>>> From: Ken Hohhof >>>>> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 11:56 AM >>>>> To: af@afmug.com >>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What to do when the Internet is down... >>>>> >>>>> You would have to jam GPS as well, since most will fly home if they lose >>>>> WiFi contact. Unless you deauth the pilot’s WiFi and take control of the >>>>> drone. >>>>> >>>>> From: Chuck McCown >>>>> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 12:53 PM >>>>> To: af@afmug.com >>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What to do when the Internet is down... >>>>> >>>>> OK, but specifically..... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: Adam Moffett >>>>> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 11:49 AM >>>>> To: af@afmug.com >>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What to do when the Internet is down... >>>>> >>>>> Part15 >>>>> >>>>> On 8/17/2015 1:49 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: >>>>> I wonder what frequencies they use for the flight controls? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: Jaime Solorza >>>>> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 11:46 AM >>>>> To: Animal Farm >>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What to do when the Internet is down... >>>>> >>>>> No. Not legal. He knows it. I want to see one in action from a >>>>> scientific point of view. I know I have enough stuff in batcave to make >>>>> one. Simple jammer is to connect several APs with 40 or 80Mhz channels >>>>> and cause intentional loop back. Or video transmitter with larger >>>>> antenna. I have done both as demonstration to Physics class students >>>>> when I worked at Tornillo ISD to talk about Faraday cage and RF signal >>>>> behavior. >>>>> >>>>> On Aug 17, 2015 11:16 AM, "Jay Weekley" <par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote: >>>>>> Are those legal? >>>>>> >>>>>> Jaime Solorza wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Friend of mine in the valley ordered a drone jammer. Says teenagers >>>>>>> from nearby farm flying it over his families pool. Going to try to >>>>>>> make it drop on his property or Rio Grande. Told him to call me when >>>>>>> he gets it. Lots of idiots with drones out there >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Aug 17, 2015 10:57 AM, "Steve D" <bigd...@gmail.com >>>>>>> <mailto:bigd...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The particular fires are in southern BC along the >>>>>>> US/Canada border >>>>>>> from Osoyoos over to Rock Creek/Kettle Valley area. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We've got a temporary service in place relayed from a neighboring >>>>>>> WISP now. It's not a lot, but it's something. Another community >>>>>>> north of there is completely in the dark due to the fires to the >>>>>>> south... no phone lines, no power, not even cell. Logistically, >>>>>>> there's nothing we can do for this community right now either. >>>>>>> Reports indicate the power company is setting up a generator. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 30 homes were lost in Rock Creek so far, and then there's an >>>>>>> effin' idiot flying a drone which has caused the air support for >>>>>>> the fire to be grounded yesterday. Now *THERE* is someone I hope >>>>>>> the black suits find... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -Steve D >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 6:30 AM, D. Ryan Spott <rsp...@ngc457.com >>>>>>> <mailto:rsp...@ngc457.com>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Where are you at Steve? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ryan >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- D. Ryan Spott | NGC457, llc >>>>>>> broadband | telco | colo | communities >>>>>>> PO Box 1734 Sultan, WA 98294 >>>>>>> 425-939-0047 <tel:425-939-0047> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Aug 16, 2015, at 12:52, Steve D <bigd...@gmail.com >>>>>>> <mailto:bigd...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We had a bad situation this week where wildfire took out our >>>>>>>> upstream's fiber in one valley which we relay wirelessly over >>>>>>>> to another valley. We had calls from people angry that we >>>>>>>> weren't driving through the roadblocks to fix it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> :( >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -Steve D >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com >>>>>>>> <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The last row are me during a thunderstorm. >>>>>>>> *From:* D. Ryan Spott <mailto:rsp...@ngc457.com> >>>>>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, August 16, 2015 2:07 PM >>>>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> ; >>>>>>>> memb...@wispa.org <mailto:memb...@wispa.org> >>>>>>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] What to do when the Internet is down... >>>>>>>> Normally these comics are just humor. The 'complain to >>>>>>>> your local congressman' is what got me to send it to this >>>>>>>> group. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ryan >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <eijjfgai.png> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- D. Ryan Spott | NGC457, llc >>>>>>>> broadband | telco | colo | communities >>>>>>>> PO Box 1734 Sultan, WA 98294 >>>>>>>> 425-939-0047 <tel:425-939-0047>
