If you are just looking for AC power isolation, then why not just a bank of
batteries charged by grid power? This would isolate you from powerline
surges. Cell sites have been running this way since the beginning of time.

On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 8:38 PM, Paul McCall <pa...@pdmnet.net> wrote:

> In most cases, yes we own the tower.
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> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Lewis Bergman
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 10, 2015 9:32 PM
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> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] a new one, I think...
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> Do you own this tower? I can't imagine what I would charge someone to put
> a solar site on one of my towers.
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> On Thu, Sep 10, 2015, 8:19 PM Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> wrote:
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> If you get enough panels and batteries you'll be fine.  If you cheap out
> and don't get enough battery run time you'll hate yourself.  You're in
> Florida so I think with the lack of winter and a proper budget (batteries)
> you'll have no problems.
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> Josh Luthman
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> On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 9:18 PM, Paul McCall <pa...@pdmnet.net> wrote:
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> You are correct on your calculations… my spreadsheet formula was wrong J
> I just came up with 104 watts.
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> I will ask the question naively..  why would you expect a headache?  Isn’t
> solar tried and true these days?
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> I am dealing with every aspect of surge protection I possibly can at every
> level already, as this summer has been a monster for us on surges.  So, am
> doing the fiber up the tower in some cases, so I WILL have gear up there,
> which has its own sets of “concerns” regardless of how I power them.
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> So, is a solar setup not reliable?   The “expert” claims that he seeing it
> more and more in the cellular world, up the tower
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> Paul
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> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Baird
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 10, 2015 9:10 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] a new one, I think...
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> I would at least allow 7.5W per ePMP radio (specs say 7.5 is typical, can
> spike to 10), and 10-15W per 320.  Maybe another 5-10w per MT radio.  That
> would be close to 100W.  You don't want to underestimate power consumption.
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> Regarding your solar question.. I'm not sure, but that sounds like one
> hell of a headache.
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> Josh
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> On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 9:00 PM, Paul McCall <pa...@pdmnet.net> wrote:
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> OK, so I am working with a grounding expert today, getting some opinions
> on a couple difficult towers, and one of the first suggestions he has for
> me as I mention that I am looking to do fiber / DC up this tower is… “Have
> you considered going solar up the tower?”  (to eliminate power surges
> completely from going up the tower)
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> Hmmmm…
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> So my brain starts wrestling with that…   Is it practical?
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> Say on a tower with a Netonix DC powered switch running at 48v or 24v,
> powering  6 ePMP APs  and 2  320APs, 2 Mikrotik Bhs, and a small Mikortik
> router.
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> Would be about 50 watts maximum according to my quick calcs.
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> Not knowing anything about solar, has battery technology developed enough
> that it would be practical (size wise) to have enough batteries and a
> charge controller up in a box on a tower?  And what size solar panel would
> I need to drive that?
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> Paul
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