I can’t remember.  I think I had a 60 or 100 watt light bulb in the boxes.  

From: Adam Moffett 
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 8:12 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cooling an outdoor NEMA box?


What heat load was inside the box during these tests?  I can believe all this 
if the sun is the only heat source, but white paint won't evacuate hot air that 
you're creating inside the box.  


On 9/17/2015 10:07 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

  One summer about 15 years ago I set up an array of hoffman boxes on tables 
out in the sun.  I had them all rigged with telemetry so I could log temps.  I 
tried fans, peltier coolers, heat exchangers, sun shields, insulation, 
thermally activated vents and various colors.  (That silver paint that the 
railroad uses is lousy.)  

  Overall, the most dramatic lowering of temps was painting the box a bright 
white. 

  There is a color called satellite white that was the best.  Biege/tan was not 
much better than the silver.    

  Then came sun shades and vent fans.  About a tossup between those two.   But 
either one on their own was about half as effective as the bright white paint.  

  Thermally activated vents are pretty nice if you don’t want to use the juice 
to run a fan.  They have either an aneroid barometer type of cell full of 
ethanol or a piston full of paraffin.  Both expand when heated.  They drive the 
louvers.   You can make your own piston if you can get the low temp paraffin.  
Granger sells the louvers all ready to install.  

  Active cooling was dead last.  Even with an insulated enclosure.  Was hard 
for it to remove any live load heating at all.  Heat exchanger was not much 
better.  

  From: Sam Lambie 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 5:13 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cooling an outdoor NEMA box?

  Thanks for the tips guys.

  Site is rebuilt now. Now to add exhaust fans. I like the idea of putting a 
heat shield in front of the door. I might just go with that! Passive means 
nothing fails.



  On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 4:53 PM, Jason McKemie 
<j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:

    The "roof" of the fan cooled DDB boxes that I've gotten essentially do 
this, with fans mounted on the inside of the enclosure at the top venting 
outwards (under the solar shield) - seems to be fairly effective.

    On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 12:26 PM, Brian Webster <i...@wirelessmapping.com> 
wrote:

      Don’t discount the idea of installing a flat plate on the sun facing face 
with standoffs. Just having that absorb the sun and heat with the air gap 
beneath does a lot towards not letting the heat build up inside the box. While 
there will be some conduction it will be a lot less than the direct radiation 
from the sun.



      Thank You,

      Brian Webster

      www.wirelessmapping.com

      www.Broadband-Mapping.com



      From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sam Lambie
      Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 12:48 PM
      To: af@afmug.com
      Subject: [AFMUG] Cooling an outdoor NEMA box?



      I am in the process of rebuilding one of our sites from an old wooden box 
to a more robust NEMA Wall mount cabinet that is 36x36x12.

      Unfortunately, the cabinet is on the southern side of the building and I 
am wondering how to cool the damn thing during the summertime heat.

      I would like to install a 4 inch 100vac fan to suck air out with an 
intake port on the other side. But it would be nice if the fans could be 
temperture controlled. Has anyone done this? And what have you used to make it 
happen?

      Sam



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