back when squirrels were an excellent power source :)


On 09/17/2015 09:39 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
Yeah, back when we were “cool” indeed...
*From:* Jaime Solorza <mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Thursday, September 17, 2015 8:36 AM
*To:* Animal Farm <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cooling an outdoor NEMA box?

Oversizing the enclosure helps.. And Chuck tests were before current global warming effects. bazinga ....

On Sep 17, 2015 8:12 AM, "Adam Moffett" <dmmoff...@gmail.com <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:


    What heat load was inside the box during these tests? I can
    believe all this if the sun is the only heat source, but white
    paint won't evacuate hot air that you're creating inside the box.

    On 9/17/2015 10:07 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
    One summer about 15 years ago I set up an array of hoffman boxes
    on tables out in the sun.  I had them all rigged with telemetry
    so I could log temps.  I tried fans, peltier coolers, heat
    exchangers, sun shields, insulation, thermally activated vents
    and various colors.  (That silver paint that the railroad uses is
    lousy.)
    Overall, the most dramatic lowering of temps was painting the box
    a bright white.
There is a color called satellite white that was the best. Biege/tan was not much better than the silver.
    Then came sun shades and vent fans.  About a tossup between those
    two.   But either one on their own was about half as effective as
    the bright white paint.
    Thermally activated vents are pretty nice if you don’t want to
    use the juice to run a fan.  They have either an aneroid
    barometer type of cell full of ethanol or a piston full of
paraffin. Both expand when heated. They drive the louvers. You can make your own piston if you can get the low temp
    paraffin. Granger sells the louvers all ready to install.
Active cooling was dead last. Even with an insulated enclosure. Was hard for it to remove any live load heating at all. Heat
    exchanger was not much better.
    *From:* Sam Lambie <mailto:samtaos...@gmail.com>
    *Sent:* Wednesday, September 16, 2015 5:13 PM
    *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cooling an outdoor NEMA box?
    Thanks for the tips guys.
    Site is rebuilt now. Now to add exhaust fans. I like the idea of
    putting a heat shield in front of the door. I might just go with
    that! Passive means nothing fails.

    On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 4:53 PM, Jason McKemie
    <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com
    <mailto:j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>> wrote:

        The "roof" of the fan cooled DDB boxes that I've gotten
        essentially do this, with fans mounted on the inside of the
        enclosure at the top venting outwards (under the solar
        shield) - seems to be fairly effective.
        On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 12:26 PM, Brian Webster
        <i...@wirelessmapping.com <mailto:i...@wirelessmapping.com>>
        wrote:

            Don’t discount the idea of installing a flat plate on the
            sun facing face with standoffs. Just having that absorb
            the sun and heat with the air gap beneath does a lot
            towards not letting the heat build up inside the box.
            While there will be some conduction it will be a lot less
            than the direct radiation from the sun.

            Thank You,

            Brian Webster

            www.wirelessmapping.com <http://www.wirelessmapping.com>

            www.Broadband-Mapping.com <http://www.Broadband-Mapping.com>

            *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
            <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *Sam Lambie
            *Sent:* Wednesday, September 16, 2015 12:48 PM
            *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
            *Subject:* [AFMUG] Cooling an outdoor NEMA box?

            I am in the process of rebuilding one of our sites from
            an old wooden box to a more robust NEMA Wall mount
            cabinet that is 36x36x12.

            Unfortunately, the cabinet is on the southern side of the
            building and I am wondering how to cool the damn thing
            during the summertime heat.

            I would like to install a 4 inch 100vac fan to suck air
            out with an intake port on the other side. But it would
            be nice if the fans could be temperture controlled. Has
            anyone done this? And what have you used to make it happen?

            Sam


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