Does anyone here have any experience with the punchdown / quick termination tools for keystone jacks? Like this:
http://www.primuscable.com/store/p/9736-Punch-Down-Tool-Rapid-Termination-Tool-for-MIG-180-Keystone-Jacks.aspx On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 12:59 PM, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote: > Yes, we do not install a surge suppressor at our installs. The Ubiquiti > POE has some surge suppression, when installed correctly. We drill a 3/8" > hole with grommet on the outside, and cut in a wallplate on the inside, > with a low voltage box. We use a shielded patch cable to the POE and > unshielded out to the router. This saves us countless service calls from > routers dying in lightning storms. It also protects the radio from > near-field ESDs. We expect to occasionally lose a POE but we haven't yet. > The ONLY issues with dead routers, NICs, and radios that we have ever had > have been the homes where we tied into the unshielded cat5 that was stubbed > out by the contractor, and lost the ground. > > On those jobs we are considering adding a surge protector, but we have run > into many issues with how to go about that. The previous company that I > worked for hit multiple gas lines and sprinkler lines before they gave up > pounding ground rods in. So we could look at scheduling Blue Stakes before > every install, or require a site survey first, then determine if we need > Blue Stakes, then we are still likely to occasionally hit something. This > adds a ton of wait time and multiple trips to every potential install. > Then comes the issue of meeting Electrical code. Any ground that we add > needs to be bonded to the house ground, and only a master electrician who > is certified can legally make that connection. Then comes the liability > involved with us just doing it anyway. For now we go with this method, and > it works, looks clean, and saves equipment. > > On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 12:18 PM, Daniel White <afmu...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Jeremy, >> >> >> >> I’m lost. Why do you use shielded keystone jacks on every install? >> >> >> >> Use a surge suppressor on the outside of the house. Shielded cable to >> that. Unshielded cable from the surge suppressor to inside the house (I >> assume your installing a keystone jack in the wall, which is certainly >> above and beyond and a nice touch). >> >> >> >> I know most WISP’s pull the cable straight thru. When I was an installer >> I was a contractor (Mesa Networks didn’t use employee installers) and I >> would charge customers $15 to install a keystone and a faceplate. Took me >> maybe an additional 5 minutes, but customers loved how much nicer it looked >> and the ISP (Mesa) didn’t care. Was an extra $45 to $60 I made a day (and >> materials are cheap). >> >> >> >> Thank you, >> >> >> >> Daniel White >> >> afmu...@gmail.com >> >> Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 >> >> Skype: danieldwhite >> Social: LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84>: Twitter >> <https://twitter.com/DanielWhite84> >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jeremy >> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 6, 2015 11:56 AM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Shielded keystone jacks >> >> >> >> Nope, we use these on every install. We need cheap. >> >> >> >> On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 9:47 AM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: >> >> If this is for a high density patch panel application, I guess I would >> tend toward Panduit. Good stuff, ain’t cheap though. >> >> >> http://www.panduit.com/heiler/InstallInstructions/N-COPN--399--RevG--ENG.pdf >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> >> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 06, 2015 10:26 AM >> >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Shielded keystone jacks >> >> >> >> Line from the radio goes to your RJ45-ECS. The ECS in our case goes to >> our NEMA enclosure. >> >> >> >> If you're trying to a rackmounted patch panel the ECS isn't a solution, >> but I thought I'd offer my solution for this problem. >> >> >> >> >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> >> >> On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: >> >> I have tried many and hated them all. Closest I found was some Signamax >> jacks I bought from Accu-Tech in Romeoville, IL. >> >> >> >> I’m not sure I follow what Josh is saying, but maybe same as what I would >> probably do. I know how to crimp on a shielded RJ45 plug, and they make >> shielded pass-through keystone jacks. Basically a panel mount inline >> coupler. >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> >> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 06, 2015 10:07 AM >> >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Shielded keystone jacks >> >> >> >> If it's outside what I do is RJ45-ECS (they changed to shielded a while >> back, same part number) and that goes to a WB SS. >> >> >> >> >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> >> >> On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 11:04 AM, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I prefer Union Special Tech keystone jacks, but holy crap they are hard >> to find in the US! For their shielded jacks, they have a little lock ring >> that locks the cable down tight (strain relief), and provides an awesome >> ground. That strain relief looks like this >> http://www.netkey.ru/content/img/wmc_pictures/2008/9/img/kj2-c6-sh-f-wh.jpg >> >> >> >> That model is KJ2-C5E-FS, and I am having an extremely difficult time >> finding it. I have found these in the past for around $1 ea. All I am >> finding now are these crappy ones that I can't stand for around $2-3 ea. >> https://www.firefold.com/cat5e-keystone-jack-110-shielded?gclid=CIztiaGOrsgCFc-FfgodwGsLwg >> >> >> >> What are you guys using for shielded keystone jacks? Any good sources >> for them at reasonable prices? I am looking to buy 1000. I have contacted >> the manufacturer in Taiwan on multiple occasions and do not get a reply. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> [image: Avast logo] <https://www.avast.com/antivirus> >> >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> www.avast.com <https://www.avast.com/antivirus> >> >> >
