I don’t think Trump qualifies as running a big organization, in any sense comparable to running the Executive branch. Fiorina at least ran a large corporation with many departments and business units.
Actually I think Bernie Sanders may be the smartest, most honest, and most independent guy in the race. Just this small matter of being a self-described SOCIALIST! Ben Carson scares me with that droopy-eyed spaced-out thing he does. Like he’s on something. That doesn’t bother anyone? I would even be scared to have him do brain surgery on me, even though by all accounts he is an excellent doctor. I don’t know why everyone says he is so smart - because he has a medical degree? Fiorina seems much sharper to me, but I keep waiting for her to eat a rat like Diana the reptilian alien in “V”. Granted she got fired at HP (Carly, not Diana), but compared to that guy Leo Apotheker she was a genius. Not an Eisenhower though. We really need the Tea Party to split off as their own party and stop co-opting the Republican party. And for Socialists to run under their own party as well. Then we can have a multi-party system like most of the rest of the world, where one of the centrist parties has to get one or more fringe parties to join their caucus to get a majority. The current system where party primaries discard people like Bob Bennett and Eric Cantor as too centrist, that’s getting crazy. From: Rory Conaway Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 11:16 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Guns etc He can’t be influenced by other peoples money. Not a bad thing. Again, could he be worse than what we have? Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 9:13 AM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Guns etc So... you're saying we should elect Trump? He does run a large organization, afterall :P On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 10:54 AM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: Everyone wants to elect a President based on ideology (or likeability), ignoring that the primary job is to run the executive branch. Eisenhower was probably the last POTUS who came to the job with credentials for effectively running a giant organization. Not saying someone can’t grow to fill the job, look at Reagan and JFK. But seriously, Ben Carson? I see the same mistake in the current contest to see what poor schmuck gets to be Speaker of the House. They want to make it about ideology, and yes it’s about getting the ideology of the majority caucus into legislation, but the Speaker should be a get-stuff-done type, not an ideologue. People still remember Sam Rayburn and Tip O’Neill. Hey, they could bring Newt Gingrich or Denny Hastert out of retirement. Looks like Hastert will avoid jail time, and he could probably use the money after paying all that hush money. From: Patrick Leary Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 10:22 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Guns etc Your vision of Reagan is of a cartoon character, devoid of reality, factually ignorant, and it vastly insults his memory. Were Reagan president today, you'd be calling him a "libtard." You are clearly under 40 years old. Patrick Leary Telrad On Oct 11, 2015 5:47 PM, Philip Rankin <wireless...@gmail.com> wrote: Nixon was conservative, but with him trying to cover up his crooked tail, we never saw much of anything from him. He was truly ineffective. Ford and Bush?? Hahaha. Not conservative RINO. Reagan, a different story. He wasn't perfect, but in his heart he held conservatism high. There is only one way to preside and that is to work with the other side some. That's when he had to give up his far right position some Nixon is the only conservative that had any bearing on this country in the last 50 years. I should say conservative bearing! On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 4:29 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: Nixon Ford Reagan Bush... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 4:55 PM, Philip Rankin <wireless...@gmail.com> wrote: Yes, one. On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 3:53 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: You know we've had conservative politicians and presidents in the last 50 years right? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Oct 11, 2015 3:52 PM, "Philip Rankin" <wireless...@gmail.com> wrote: Since many of you are calling me rude, how about we just reverse that logic??? How about all of the damage the liberal logic has done to this country in the past say 50 years???? Is that not rude? You know, actually it's so far beyond rude, that we can't measure it anymore. Start with the debt, the credit ratings of the country, the backdoor payoff deals, the stupidity of laws that cover laws that should not have ever been written in the first place. Or, the stupid recent healthcare law that the majority of the population don't want because we were lied to about it. And then the RINOs bailing out their favorite companies after they got their kickbacks? And this isn't even the tip of the iceberg. It's all liberal stupidity. Notice I didn't say Democrat or Republican? It's libtards! These folk have no concern for their country or their fellow man. All they want is to line their pockets and control people! Call me rude if you like! I haven't even cracked the door on the rudeness these people have done to all of us including many generations to follow us! And, while were at it, how about all of those babies that will never have an opportunity to join us? What a sickening shame! No, Travesty! On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 3:33 PM, Philip Rankin <wireless...@gmail.com> wrote: Haven't made my point yet Lewis. But, saw enough of those that were not in agreement with you in the thread to know that they don't believe in "Certain Inalienable Rights" with government here only to preserve those rights, not impose someone else's stupidity on me. And, that the libs want someone else to take care of them all of the time. To me, that's retarded and just plain dumb. Now that I look at those that have their crazy position and compare that position to their past posts on here, I now understand some of their past posts here! I am not about to let someone shoot me during a convenience store holdup. I will die with my 45 in hand before I let the bad guy take me or anyone else easily. Now, to shoot someone as he is driving away with my dvd player as more libtardiness suggested,,,, How dumb! To take a life because someone is a thief??? That's just another liberal ploy adage to try to make others believe that we shouldn't have those inalienable rights. Life is precious, things, not so much! But my life is more precious to me than to let someone else try to protect me from halfway across the county (The Police)! So, to make my point about your comment "People assume you are out of salient points to make." No, I'm just trying to use a concise word that describes all the stupidity that today's liberals have stooped to. and libtard pretty much does that! On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 1:40 PM, Lewis Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> wrote: Come on now. Be civil. You only hurt your own argument when you resort to name calling. People assume you are out of salient points to make. On Sun, Oct 11, 2015, 1:09 PM Philip Rankin <wireless...@gmail.com> wrote: Especially with all thee libtard views out there today! On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 12:10 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller <par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote: It is also a great reminder that people in other parts of the country do not necessarily share your views. Also a great reminder that the founders of this country really did know what they were doing. For things to happen in this country you have to AGREE...which is becoming more and more difficult ;) ----- Original Message ----- From: Chuck McCown To: af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2015 11:40 AM Subject: [AFMUG] OT Guns etc This has been fun reading. I love this list. Folks are smart and mostly polite and post some pretty well reasoned arguments on both sides of almost any issue. This is all the social media I need. I did want to make a comment about the Illinois FOID card. I was a hostage in a bank robbery back in about 1993 in Quincy Illinois. Once it was over and I got out of the bank, I learned that a co-worker had suffered some kind of stress attack and was in the hospital. That afternoon they were out of beds in some of the areas so that took him to the 5th floor. That is the psych floor. Then, it turned out, anyone that gets admitted to a psych ward in Illinois gets reported to the FOID people. They revoke the FOID card. This guy was a big time hunter. It just about killed him. He got some pretty good press and got some political help. Hot his card back in about 6 weeks. So, if you want to keep your FOID stay out of psych wards! -- Philip J. Rankin Wireless Telecommunications Services PO Box 24 Pittsburg, KS 66762 -- Philip J. Rankin Wireless Telecommunications Services PO Box 24 Pittsburg, KS 66762 -- Philip J. Rankin Wireless Telecommunications Services PO Box 24 Pittsburg, KS 66762 -- Philip J. Rankin Wireless Telecommunications Services PO Box 24 Pittsburg, KS 66762 -- Philip J. 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