The play is the cost of the labor. UBNT claims that you can install a
9-panel array in 17 minutes. Hard to believe, but I've seen 20-panel
arrays take a couple of days to install. The difference in labor is
immense (if true). What's the cost of 2 days labor (probably 2 people)?
I'm not convinced. I might do my own installation up to the point of
actually connecting the solar system to the grid; so maybe this is not
relevant.
Around here, the big delta is the cost of permitting/inspections.
bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
On 10/14/2015 8:17 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:
I've been at a lot of solar industry shows this year, and I'm really
not convinced that there is anything really disruptive here.
I've seen better & faster mounting systems. Grid tie inverters are a
dime a dozen. Solar panels are cheap. What is the play here?
The idea is apparently to provide a plug and play kit of solar to
wisps to add to their offerings. I'm not sure how this is going to
work with the number of hoops you have to jump through to do this in
most localities. Are the wisps going to hire a licensed electrician
to do this and send everyone to solar installer classes?
On Oct 14, 2015 7:51 PM, "Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com
<mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I think the idea is that it's supposed to be cheaper when you
factor in install costs... I have my doubts that'll work out, but
I guess we'll see once they actually start selling something.
On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 9:38 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account)
<li...@packetflux.com <mailto:li...@packetflux.com>> wrote:
$1.5 per watt, complete rooftop grid tie system, including
micro inverters, mounting, etc.
I'm a bit out of touch, but this didn't seem very disruptive
to me.
On Oct 14, 2015 6:46 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com
<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
$1 per watt for DIY systems.
That is without battery. A full battery system is going
to cost you 3 times that or more.
*From:* Sterling Jacobson <mailto:sterl...@avative.net>
*Sent:* Wednesday, October 14, 2015 7:37 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Did I miss Chucks opinion on Ubnt
SunMax
Yeah, they said $1.50 a watt purchased, but do it yourself
installed.
I guess it’s nice having it converted on panel to AC.
But what’s this price vs. buying panels yourself and
running DC to a battery bank?
I want both. I want the panels and the battery with a
decent inverter.
I don’t care so much about selling back to the grid.
*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard
*Sent:* Wednesday, October 14, 2015 7:27 PM
*To:* af <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Did I miss Chucks opinion on Ubnt
SunMax
I think they mentioned something about under $1.50/watt,..
or something like that, but I have no idea if that's
anywhere near what the real price will be.
It looked to me like they're trying for simplicity more
than cheap.
On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 8:15 PM, Chuck McCown
<ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
$/watt is the only thing that matters to me. Pricing
was not discussed.
Mounting looks good. Normally integrated inverters and
not the most cost effective method.
Like to know the pricing. Also, you have to submit
schematics and all kinds of other things to the local
building inspection authority here to do a grid tie
system. Not sure this would fly. Did not see all the
labels and disconnects that are required here.
*From:*Craig Schmaderer <mailto:cr...@skywaveconnect.com>
*Sent:*Wednesday, October 14, 2015 5:25 PM
*To:*af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:*[AFMUG] Did I miss Chucks opinion on Ubnt SunMax
Not sure when they released this, but I just saw this
on their website. https://www.ubnt.com/sunmax/