I originally loved ACH, for the cost savings.  Now I have realized that it
is the only way that a customer can defraud us with our current billing
method.  They login and run an ACH on a delinquent account, get it turned
back on automagically, and then it bounces, we add a fee, they repeat the
process, we turn it off, add another fee, rinse, lather, repeat.  Finally
we give up and go get the equipment and now we're out like $250.  Being a
prepaid service we usually shut them off after 20 days and so that would be
the most that anyone could possibly hit us for (20 days of service).  With
checks they can bounce the install and then play the re-activation game for
two months before we get frustrated and pull out.

We have yet to start sending customers to collections.  For those of you
that are, how does it work out?  Are the reclamation of these minor amounts
worth the slanderous hate speech that is sure to come from that customer
for life after you hit their credit?  We have been eating the cost, cutting
ties, and moving on.

As far as how we push them toward ACH, I simply explain how bad bill pay
sucks.  It is like sending cash in the mail and it goes through a third
party.  If they are late mailing it then service gets shut off, and late
fees get added.  I also tell them that credit cards cost us more to process
than checks.  I basically just tell them that we prefer ACH, but we will
take anything.  I regularly question whether ACH is a good idea or not.  We
have more problem customers on ACH than any other payment method.

On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 8:41 AM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:

> Our bank wants a $25/mo minimum fee for us to process ACH payments, so we
> don’t accept ACH.  The per transaction fee is not bad, but the minimum is a
> problem.
>
> *From:* Justin Wilson - MTIN <li...@mtin.net>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 11, 2015 9:29 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Steer customers to ACH (vs CC)?
>
> Give them a discount.  Much of it depends on the bank. We had folks who
> absolutely hated ACH because their bank would charge an overdraft if the
> ACH failed.  They like the CC, even if it was a debit card, because if the
> money wasn’t there it just declines it.  No $30 fee or whatever.   But, it
> depends on the bank. This is what wasn’t attractive to us was banks treated
> it different.  Credit card either runs or it doesn’t.  ACH typically is not
> as smooth for a variety of reasons.
>
> Justin Wilson
> j...@mtin.net
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> On Nov 11, 2015, at 10:21 AM, Christopher Gray <cg...@graytechsoftware.com>
> wrote:
>
> For the people who accept both ACH and CC payments, do you do anything to
> promote the use of ACH (to reduce your costs)?
>
> Thanks - Chris
>
>
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