Stay out of politics is what I meant On Nov 15, 2015 9:28 AM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Whoa. I want to stay out but Bush got us into Iraq when Afghanistan was > were we needed to be all along. Even his dad has stated that and facts > have shown this was a mistake plus helped leave vacuum filled by Isil ....I > take this very personally as my son served in Iraq and tells me it was > wrong. Now he is in and out of hospital and rehab clinics dealing with > PTSD and other symptoms. Obama inherited this mess. No easy solution > when dealing with fanatics...any kind....look at KKK and other hate groups > here in USA. Its a tough reality. God bless us all. > On Nov 15, 2015 9:18 AM, "Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I have to agree... even if we had stayed in Iraq, there wouldn't be a >> stable democracy, it just isn't going to work in that part of the world. >> Six brutal dictators probably would be just about the only way to stabilize >> the mess. Either that, or we go back and occupy it... forever, which I >> don't think many people would want to do. >> >> On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 8:04 AM, Lewis Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> I am no Obama or Hillary fan but I don't think staying would have been >>> all that different in the end. Everyone has failed at peace in the middle >>> East. Everyone will fail. I honestly don't understand why everyone keeps >>> trying. In my opinion the best thing is what you mentioned. >>> We should get with Russia, since they have the inside line on dictators, >>> and find about six really brutal people to take over the middle East. >>> Judging from our Iran experiment we could get maybe forty years of peace. >>> >>> On Sun, Nov 15, 2015, 7:53 AM Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> We had our chance to stop it in Iraq, we cut and run. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> And you are right, we didn’t do the right bombing in Vietnam to stop >>>> that war. And what Ford did at the end is the lesson Obama should have >>>> learned which could have prevented much of what happened in the Middle East >>>> including ISIS. Apparently they didn’t teach history to at Harvard. >>>> Imagine the influence a multi-cultural and stable Iraqi government would >>>> have had on the region. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Rory >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Lewis Bergman >>>> *Sent:* Sunday, November 15, 2015 6:31 AM >>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>> >>>> >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis >>>> français >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Collateral damage is highly underrated. Vietnam had no wholesale >>>> bombing like WWII. that is one reason Vietnam, and the rest of these >>>> conflicts, last so long. >>>> >>>> The horror of war has to be brought to everyone, including those making >>>> the decisions, to bring it to an end. >>>> >>>> But having said that, this Muslim extremists movement has been been >>>> going on for about 700 years so it may be to much to expect to be out of >>>> war again. There may be a lull, but I think the entire world has been drawn >>>> into the middle East quagmire. >>>> >>>> The primary cause damn sure isn't a two degrees warming tend in a >>>> couple decades. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Nov 15, 2015, 7:05 AM Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> The problem is that they are basically imbedded with civilians. How >>>> do you kill them without taking out everyone else. That is the problem we >>>> have had all along. Door-to-door warfare is all that you can do but it’s >>>> also the most dangerous for our soldiers and nobody is going to allow >>>> wholesale bombing like Nixon did in Vietnam. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> We also burned a lot of good will in all the countries we need to do >>>> this with when we got the local civilians to act as translators and >>>> informants and abandoned them after the war, the highest profile of them >>>> the doctor in Pakistan. Even he is still in jail years later but the >>>> reality is, nobody trusts us any more in those regions. We are not a >>>> reliable ally. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Rory >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza >>>> *Sent:* Saturday, November 14, 2015 11:06 AM >>>> *To:* Animal Farm <af@afmug.com> >>>> >>>> >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis >>>> français >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> as much as i hate war and killing....I agree we need to make a parking >>>> lot out of them... >>>> >>>> >>>> Jaime Solorza >>>> >>>> Wireless Systems Architect >>>> >>>> 915-861-1390 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 10:42 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> The more of this that happens, the more the rest of the world will >>>> unite to rub them out. I am a hopeless optimist. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> >>>> >>>> *Sent:* Saturday, November 14, 2015 7:52 AM >>>> >>>> *To:* Animal Farm <af@afmug.com> >>>> >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG][WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis >>>> français >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Yes. I am praying for them and the world. What a tragedy.. It is >>>> beyond barbaric..its evil for the sake of evil. >>>> >>>> Jaime Solorza >>>> >>>> On Nov 13, 2015 10:15 PM, "Faisal Imtiaz" <fai...@snappytelecom.net> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Oui , et pas seulement cela , nos cœurs et nos prières pour tous ceux >>>> qui sont touchés par cette Sensless actes brabaric . >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Faisal Imtiaz >>>> >>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom >>>> 7266 SW 48 Street >>>> Miami, FL 33155 >>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 >>>> >>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> *From: *"Patrick Leary" <patrick.le...@telrad.com> >>>> *To: *"WISPA General List" <wirel...@wispa.org>, "Telrad List" < >>>> tel...@wispa.org>, af@afmug.com, memb...@canwisp.ca >>>> *Sent: *Friday, November 13, 2015 7:46:29 PM >>>> *Subject: *[WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français >>>> >>>> Tonght, chaque personne libre est un Parisien. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Patrick Leary >>>> >>>> Telrad >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ************************************************************************************ >>>> This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by >>>> PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & >>>> computer viruses. >>>> >>>> ************************************************************************************ >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wireless mailing list >>>> wirel...@wispa.org >>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>
