News as a disinterested third party, is pretty much dead. All news
organizations have a political leaning including BBC, Al Jazeera, and
NPR. In many cases it’s not what they report, it’s what they fail to
report that is just as bad or worse. BBC rarely reports anything
negative about the British Government and is as bad as the New York
Times about not reporting anything negative about a Democrat. Of
course both of them do it, but the amount of time or the amount of
resources will be far less than the opposite side of the side of the
issue. Al Jazeera never reports anything bad about the Muslim or
Islamic faith and NPR is almost as bad as the BBC when it comes to
never saying anything about a liberal government. I think NBC, CBS,
and ABC have the same advisor telling them what negative information
not to report on Obama for example. As for NPR, they lost all
credibility with me when they fired Juan Williams because he said
something their management didn’t like and he is a huge liberal.
There is an argument now that Google can pretty much influence an
election by a huge amount by pushing positive news information in
their search engine about their liberal candidate up while
simultaneously doing the same thing in a negative light towards a
Conservative candidate.
At this point, it’s pretty much up to us to watch news organizations
from both sides of the aisle and try to sort out the truth.
Rory
*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul McCall
*Sent:* Monday, November 16, 2015 8:11 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
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+1. Since we have a pretty good idea of what slant that CNN and
Foxnews will put on things without looking, respectively, I just
glance at that both once in a while. BBC is a good choice.
Paul
*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
*Sent:* Monday, November 16, 2015 9:34 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
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français
BBC is good. Al Jazeera is surprisingly informative and seems to lack
spin.
I listen to NPR continually.
Card carrying GOP but am truly libertarian, cannot vote demo primarily
due to guns and the abortion issue.
Fox news is like eating a whole bag of halloween candy. After watching
fox I have to watch some Rachael Maddow to be able to drive straight
again.
(In reality, I avoid TV news. Radio and Google News is were most of
my disinformation comes from).
I don’t like apologists, religious or otherwise. I like the best
truths I can find.
I really hate partisan politics. Blood sport all based on pride and
self aggrandizement. Does nothing for the people.
*From:*Glen Waldrop <mailto:gwl...@cngwireless.net>
*Sent:*Monday, November 16, 2015 7:20 AM
*To:*af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
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You're right on one thing, politics is not as cut and dried as all of
that.
Obama is a jackass.
Fox news is far from perfect.
As a businessman though I recommend not calling your potential
customers dumb though. Fox may be a group of liars, but at this point
in time they are the least biased news source in the US (50% biased vs
100%). Pretty much all of the rest of them are brown nosing the left
so bad I can't see how they haven't suffocated themselves.
When I want news with little BS I tend to lean towards BBC myself.
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*From:*Patrick Leary <mailto:patrick.le...@telrad.com>
*To:*af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Sent:*Monday, November 16, 2015 7:24 AM
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The world is such a simple place when everything is Obama’s fault.
Somebody smashes a glass to the ground. 12 years later, people
blinded by partisanship blame the person who tried to glue some of
the pieces back together, but the glass still won’t hold water so
it must be his fault. Extremely disordered cognitive functioning.
…Never mind the real subtleties all the “informed” people on the
Right seem to forget, chief among them that the IRAQI POLITICIANS
SAID THE ONLY WAY WE COULD KEEP OUR TROOPS IN COUNTRY WAS TO
REMOVE THEIR IMMUNITY AND MAKE THEM SUBJECT TO LIABILITY AND
PROSECUTION. No one on this side of the pond wanted that, from the
DoD to BOTH parties. Of course, FOX viewers either are too dumb to
know this or intentionally pretend that was not the reality, in
order to take yet another “it’s Obama’s fault” grade school
insult. It’s just way more satisfying or simpler for their
juvenile world view to believe “it’s Obama’s fault!” What, are you
10 years old?
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/05/world/middleeast/iraqis-say-no-to-immunity-for-remaining-american-troops.html?_r=0
People really need to educate themselves before spewing childish
partisan memes.
Patrick
*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Rory Conaway
*Sent:* Sunday, November 15, 2015 8:53 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
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We had our chance to stop it in Iraq, we cut and run.
And you are right, we didn’t do the right bombing in Vietnam to
stop that war. And what Ford did at the end is the lesson Obama
should have learned which could have prevented much of what
happened in the Middle East including ISIS. Apparently they
didn’t teach history to at Harvard. Imagine the influence a
multi-cultural and stable Iraqi government would have had on the
region.
Rory
*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Lewis Bergman
*Sent:* Sunday, November 15, 2015 6:31 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
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Collateral damage is highly underrated. Vietnam had no wholesale
bombing like WWII. that is one reason Vietnam, and the rest of
these conflicts, last so long.
The horror of war has to be brought to everyone, including those
making the decisions, to bring it to an end.
But having said that, this Muslim extremists movement has been
been going on for about 700 years so it may be to much to expect
to be out of war again. There may be a lull, but I think the
entire world has been drawn into the middle East quagmire.
The primary cause damn sure isn't a two degrees warming tend in a
couple decades.
On Sun, Nov 15, 2015, 7:05 AM Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net
<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
The problem is that they are basically imbedded with
civilians. How do you kill them without taking out everyone
else. That is the problem we have had all along. Door-to-door
warfare is all that you can do but it’s also the most
dangerous for our soldiers and nobody is going to allow
wholesale bombing like Nixon did in Vietnam.
We also burned a lot of good will in all the countries we need
to do this with when we got the local civilians to act as
translators and informants and abandoned them after the war,
the highest profile of them the doctor in Pakistan. Even he
is still in jail years later but the reality is, nobody trusts
us any more in those regions. We are not a reliable ally.
Rory
*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
*Sent:* Saturday, November 14, 2015 11:06 AM
*To:* Animal Farm <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>>
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amis français
as much as i hate war and killing....I agree we need to make a
parking lot out of them...
Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390
On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 10:42 AM, Chuck McCown
<ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
The more of this that happens, the more the rest of the
world will unite to rub them out. I am a hopeless optimist.
*From:*Jaime Solorza <mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
*Sent:*Saturday, November 14, 2015 7:52 AM
*To:*Animal Farm <mailto:af@afmug.com>
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Yes. I am praying for them and the world. What a
tragedy.. It is beyond barbaric..its evil for the sake of
evil.
Jaime Solorza
On Nov 13, 2015 10:15 PM, "Faisal Imtiaz"
<fai...@snappytelecom.net
<mailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net>> wrote:
Oui , et pas seulement cela , nos cœurs et nos prières
pour tous ceux qui sont touchés par cette Sensless
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Tonght, chaque personne libre est un Parisien.
Patrick Leary
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