Actually, just to correct a little bit…

The AUX port on the 450i radios is actually 802.3at as well.  This means that 
you could potentially use a device that draws up to 30W of power.

The 450i radio itself typically draws ~17W, but depending on cable length can 
(worst case) draw up to 19W.

As George says, any 802.3at supply should work, and I know the one we have 
right now is over-priced (if you’re not using the AUX port).

As I fed back to you off line, Sean, we will have the new supply, N000000L034A, 
which is 802.3at ($35 MSRP), and will work with the N000900L007A AC Line cord 
($5 MSRP).  This should be available in January.

In cases where you’ll want to support PoE out to another device on the AUX port 
(i.e. power hungry PoE camera, or a second AP, etc.), you can use the 60W PoE 
which is cited below.

Matt


From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sean Heskett
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2015 8:05 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Canopy 450i SM POE

Cool, thanks for the help George!

I'm gonna give the planet one a try, I'll report back with the results.

Hopefully cambium will chime in with a solution too.

-Sean

On Thursday, December 3, 2015, George Skorup 
<geo...@cbcast.com<mailto:geo...@cbcast.com>> wrote:
Anything 802.3at compliant should work just fine. Switch port, injector, 
whatever.

We've installed some Exalt ExtendAir G2 radios which are also 3at compliant. 
Nice low power consumption. The OEM injector is a Phihong POE36U-1AT-R. I'm not 
sure if the -R means reverse polarity though. Could be because power is on 
1,2,3&6. We buy spares from here: 
http://www.alliedelec.com/phihong-poe36u-1at-r/70124112/

That one you linked shows 4/5+, 7/8-. I'm not sure if the 450i will do both 
types or if it expects power on certain pairs, or all pairs. I believe the 3at 
standard says the compliant powered device should take either. There's always 
those non-standard standards though. :(
On 12/3/2015 6:50 PM, Sean Heskett wrote:
so based on what George said this will work?

http://planetechusa.com/ieee-802-3at-gigabit-high-power-over-ethernet-injector-mid-span.html

On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 5:15 PM, George Skorup 
<geo...@cbcast.com<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','geo...@cbcast.com');>> wrote:
It's 3at on the input and 3af on the secondary port output. You might be able 
to get away with a 3af supply for the input which is 15W if you're not using 
the second output, but then again, the 450i 5GHz SM itself uses >14W, IIRC, so 
it'd be close.
On 12/3/2015 3:59 PM, Sean Heskett wrote:
hi ken,

this is for the 5Ghz 450i integrated SM

regular canopy POE doesn't work, nor does epmp.

-sean


On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 2:42 PM, Ken Hohhof 
<af...@kwisp.com<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af...@kwisp.com');>> wrote:
Which specific variant of 450i SM?

I’m pretty sure I read that at least for the 900 MHz version, it could be 
powered from a standard 29.5V Canopy POE.  Which obviously is important if you 
are swapping out existing FSK customers.

This may not be true for the 5 GHz variant, I don’t know.

Obviously these things don’t consume 60 watts or even 30 watts, but there’s 
also the pinout and gigabit issues.


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Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2015 3:24 PM
To: af@afmug.com<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Canopy 450i SM POE

Here are the power supply options.  Pricing is MSRP.

N000065L001B
C000065L002B
N000000L034A

$80
$380
$35

56 VDC, 60W supply
Enhanced AC+DC Power Injector
56 VDC, 30W supply (available soon)



N000065L003A
N000065L004AN000065L005A

$20
$20
$20

US Line Cord Fig 8 (IEC-60320 Type C7)
UK Line Cord Fig 8 (IEC-60320 Type C7)
EU Line Cord Fig 8 (IEC-60320 Type C7)



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From: Af 
[mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af-boun...@afmug.com');>]
 On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2015 3:17 PM
To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Canopy 450i SM POE

Doesn't the 5ghz 450i need 48v? They're supposed to be 802.3at compliant, so 
there's gotta be something cheaper than $80 out there.

On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 3:12 PM, Sean Heskett 
<af...@zirkel.us<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af...@zirkel.us');>> wrote:
thats what i thought!

It didn't power the SM that i tried it on

On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 2:09 PM, Josh Luthman 
<j...@imaginenetworksllc.com<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','j...@imaginenetworksllc.com');>>
 wrote:

Can't you use the Epmp POE?

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On Dec 3, 2015 4:06 PM, "Sean Heskett" 
<af...@zirkel.us<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af...@zirkel.us');>> wrote:
what is the part number for the POE to use with the SMs?

our vendor is telling us to use the PTP650 POE adapter (which works) but it's 
(MSRP) $80 + $20 for the USA AC cord.  something ain't right!?!?

this is what were were told to use:
N000065L001B PTP650 Spare AC Power Injector (Old P/N N000065L001A) $80.00

N000065L003A PTP650 Spare US Power Line Cord Fig 8 $20



isn't there a ~$20 POE solution for the 450i SMs???  The manual listed the same 
PTP650 POE adapter :-/

Thanks,

Sean


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