At launch? On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 6:27 PM, Keefe John <keefe...@ethoplex.com> wrote:
> When will the 5AC-PRISM be DFS approved? > > On 12/21/2015 7:04 PM, Jeremy wrote: > > Quick turnaround on the unlock codes. This thread reminded me that I > still needed a code for AC Powerbeams. I filled out the form and they > arrived four days later (including the weekend). > > On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 6:39 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Well frustrating day. We moved channels on ptp while using another radio >> to run airview and site survey. Moved to 5190 and the other wisp moved >> to 5180....Us at 20 and him at 40Mhz...moved to 5275...10 minutes later he >> moved to 5265...so I configured our scanner radio to 8Mhz and parked it on >> his center channel. He moved to 5200 and we got speeds back up. Links are >> close to each other and parallel paths. >> On Dec 17, 2015 11:21 AM, "Jeremy" <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I just spent an hour looking for a table like that on the ubnt forums. >>> Came back and there it is! Thanks! >>> >>> On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 11:02 AM, Eric Kuhnke < <eric.kuh...@gmail.com> >>> eric.kuh...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Max Tx power is only 18 or 19 at 64QAM 5/6 on a "M" series 802.11n 2x2 >>>> ubnt radio anyhow... So it's not a terribly disaster for PTP links. >>>> >>>> I believe they are only +23 when operating in QPSK. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 9:50 AM, Mathew Howard < <mhoward...@gmail.com> >>>> mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> If I remember correctly, they it drops to 16 or 17 dbm (from 26)... so >>>>> it is a pretty huge drop. >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 11:14 AM, John Woodfield < >>>>> <john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz>john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thats all fine and great. The question is how far does it lower the >>>>>> TX power. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> John Woodfield, President >>>>>> >>>>>> Delmarva WiFi Inc. >>>>>> >>>>>> 410-870-WiFi >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: "Mathew Howard" < <mhoward...@gmail.com>mhoward...@gmail.com> >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 10:05pm >>>>>> To: "af" < <af@afmug.com>af@afmug.com> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1 >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes, once you activate the revised UNII rules, it it will lower the >>>>>> EIRP in UNII-3, however just upgrading the firmware won't change anything >>>>>> (until you enter the key) and you can use the key again to get the higher >>>>>> Tx Power back (and disable UNII-1/2)... of course if you lose the link >>>>>> when >>>>>> the power drops, that won't help you... if a link is questionable, I >>>>>> would >>>>>> just try lowering the tx power using test mode to see what happens before >>>>>> you do anything. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 8:07 PM, John Woodfield < >>>>>> <john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz>john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> With the new unlock codes and firmware are they still killing the >>>>>>> EIRP of the gear even in the UNII3 bands? I've been scared to load it on >>>>>>> anything... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> John Woodfield, President >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Delmarva WiFi Inc. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 410-870-WiFi >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: "James Craig" < <ja...@ubnt.com>ja...@ubnt.com> >>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 3:29pm >>>>>>> To: <af@afmug.com>af@afmug.com >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Guys, >>>>>>> There are actually two sets of "DFS" unlocks. The older unlock is >>>>>>> from a few years ago to unlock DFS on RM5/NanoBridge/NanoStation. Those >>>>>>> keys will not unlock PowerBeam/NanoBeam or AC products. >>>>>>> NanoBeam/PowerBeamM units will require 5.6.3 + unlock codes >>>>>>> generated in the last few months (June 2015). >>>>>>> AC products can be unlocked as well, but this is currently only >>>>>>> available on 7.2/8.0 beta firmware. R5AC-PTP and PTMP models are >>>>>>> limited >>>>>>> to bands above 5470MHz due to airPrism filtering. The R5-AC-PRISM will >>>>>>> have full U-NII band support. >>>>>>> If you need new codes/stickers for PowerBeamM/NanoBeamM or AC >>>>>>> products, you can request them here: >>>>>>> <https://www.ubnt.com/fcclabelrequest/> >>>>>>> https://www.ubnt.com/fcclabelrequest/ >>>>>>> Please feel free to email me directly if you have any questions. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 3:13 PM, < <jaldri...@totalhighspeed.net> >>>>>>> jaldri...@totalhighspeed.net> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We have been using keys with the nanostations with no problem. I >>>>>>>> cannot get the powerbeams to work at all. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Dec 16, 2015, at 2:10 PM, Ben Moore < <ben.mo...@ubnt.com> >>>>>>>> ben.mo...@ubnt.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yes, they are...Please check with support team if they are not >>>>>>>> showing up for you as could be something to do with the unlock code - >>>>>>>> <supp...@ubnt.com>supp...@ubnt.com >>>>>>>> I will also ask them to chime in here. >>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>> Ben >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 1:07 PM, < <jaldri...@totalhighspeed.net> >>>>>>>> jaldri...@totalhighspeed.net> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So are powerbeams not capable? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Dec 16, 2015, at 2:01 PM, Ben Moore < <ben.mo...@ubnt.com> >>>>>>>>> ben.mo...@ubnt.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Yes, datasheets are being updated (most are done, just not >>>>>>>>> uploaded yet). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Mathew Howard < >>>>>>>>> <mhoward...@gmail.com>mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Well, right. that was the case up until airOS 5.6.3 was >>>>>>>>>> released... I expect they'll update the data sheets when the radios >>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>> shipping with the new firmware. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 11:11 AM, < >>>>>>>>>> <jaldri...@totalhighspeed.net>jaldri...@totalhighspeed.net> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I was just stating what the data sheet says about the US version >>>>>>>>>>> versus worldwide version. I know that we have been buying nanobeams >>>>>>>>>>> And >>>>>>>>>>> using them just fine we ordered powerbeams this last time and >>>>>>>>>>> cannot do >>>>>>>>>>> anything other than 5725-5850. >>>>>>>>>>> <image1.PNG> >>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 16, 2015, at 10:50 AM, Mathew Howard < >>>>>>>>>>> <mhoward...@gmail.com>mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> You most certainly can use the US radios in 5150-5250, and >>>>>>>>>>> whoever said that only the world version supports it is wrong. >>>>>>>>>>> You just need to upgrade the firmware to 5.6.3, and enter the >>>>>>>>>>> unlock key - which you do need to request from UBNT. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 10:39 AM, Ken Hohhof < <af...@kwisp.com> >>>>>>>>>>> af...@kwisp.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Ben, what does “approvals are in” mean? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I don’t give a rat’s ass whether you have approvals in. I want >>>>>>>>>>>> to know if I can order equipment for a customer install, upgrade >>>>>>>>>>>> to latest >>>>>>>>>>>> released firmware if necessary, and operate it in the 5150-5250 >>>>>>>>>>>> band. >>>>>>>>>>>> That’s all that matters to me. Anything else is your internal >>>>>>>>>>>> process to >>>>>>>>>>>> get to what I need, which is a radio I can buy from my distributor >>>>>>>>>>>> and send >>>>>>>>>>>> out with an installer to do a customer install off a Rocket M5 AP >>>>>>>>>>>> we >>>>>>>>>>>> installed 8 months ago. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> When I go to the grocery store to buy 2% milk, they don’t tell >>>>>>>>>>>> me the farmer has bought a cow, they either have 2% milk on the >>>>>>>>>>>> shelf or >>>>>>>>>>>> they don’t. Status reports on the feeding and milking of the cow >>>>>>>>>>>> don’t >>>>>>>>>>>> give me something to pour on my cereal. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Ben Moore <ben.mo...@ubnt.com> >>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 16, 2015 10:23 AM >>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* <af@afmug.com>af@afmug.com >>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1 >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Guys - >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The approvals for both lower band and DFS are in. Same w it AC >>>>>>>>>>>> gear. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>>> Ben >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 9:05 AM, Ken Hohhof < <af...@kwisp.com> >>>>>>>>>>>> af...@kwisp.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> This is just incredible. They've been screwing around with >>>>>>>>>>>>> this for about 8 months. Ubiquiti seems to be giving the middle >>>>>>>>>>>>> finger to >>>>>>>>>>>>> the US market. I am going to have to look at ripping out some >>>>>>>>>>>>> APs and PTP >>>>>>>>>>>>> links I put up back in April and replacing them with something >>>>>>>>>>>>> else. I >>>>>>>>>>>>> don't know how to explain to a customer that I can't order >>>>>>>>>>>>> equipment for >>>>>>>>>>>>> their service because my vendor has their head up their ass, that >>>>>>>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>>>>>>> reflects badly on me for using their equipment. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: >>>>>>>>>>>>> <jaldri...@totalhighspeed.net>jaldri...@totalhighspeed.net >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 4:25 AM >>>>>>>>>>>>> To: <af@afmug.com>af@afmug.com >>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1 >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Only the world version supports it. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 15, 2015, at 11:06 PM, Ken Hohhof < <af...@kwisp.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> af...@kwisp.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does anybody know if the NBE-M5-19 and PBE-M5-300/400/620 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> allow 5150-5250 MHz with release firmware now? And what is the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> likelihood >>>>>>>>>>>>>> any product I bought from a distributor today would support this >>>>>>>>>>>>>> band out >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the box without requesting a key from Ubiquiti? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You'd think Ubiquiti would have this somewhere, but I can't >>>>>>>>>>>>>> find it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> > >