At launch?

On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 6:27 PM, Keefe John <keefe...@ethoplex.com> wrote:

> When will the 5AC-PRISM be DFS approved?
>
> On 12/21/2015 7:04 PM, Jeremy wrote:
>
> Quick turnaround on the unlock codes.  This thread reminded me that I
> still needed a code for AC Powerbeams.  I filled out the form and they
> arrived four days later (including the weekend).
>
> On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 6:39 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Well frustrating day.  We moved channels on ptp while using another radio
>> to run airview and site survey.   Moved  to 5190 and the other wisp moved
>> to 5180....Us at 20 and him at 40Mhz...moved to 5275...10 minutes later he
>> moved to 5265...so I configured  our scanner radio to 8Mhz and parked it on
>> his center channel.  He moved to 5200 and we got speeds back up.  Links are
>> close to each other and parallel paths.
>> On Dec 17, 2015 11:21 AM, "Jeremy" <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I just spent an hour looking for a table like that on the ubnt forums.
>>> Came back and there it is!  Thanks!
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 11:02 AM, Eric Kuhnke < <eric.kuh...@gmail.com>
>>> eric.kuh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Max Tx power is only 18 or 19 at 64QAM 5/6 on a "M" series 802.11n 2x2
>>>> ubnt radio anyhow... So it's not a terribly disaster for PTP links.
>>>>
>>>> I believe they are only +23 when operating in QPSK.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 9:50 AM, Mathew Howard < <mhoward...@gmail.com>
>>>> mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> If I remember correctly, they it drops to 16 or 17 dbm (from 26)... so
>>>>> it is a pretty huge drop.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 11:14 AM, John Woodfield <
>>>>> <john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz>john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thats all fine and great. The question is how far does it lower the
>>>>>> TX power.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John Woodfield, President
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Delmarva WiFi Inc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 410-870-WiFi
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: "Mathew Howard" < <mhoward...@gmail.com>mhoward...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 10:05pm
>>>>>> To: "af" < <af@afmug.com>af@afmug.com>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, once you activate the revised UNII rules, it it will lower the
>>>>>> EIRP in UNII-3, however just upgrading the firmware won't change anything
>>>>>> (until you enter the key) and you can use the key again to get the higher
>>>>>> Tx Power back (and disable UNII-1/2)... of course if you lose the link 
>>>>>> when
>>>>>> the power drops, that won't help you... if a link is questionable, I 
>>>>>> would
>>>>>> just try lowering the tx power using test mode to see what happens before
>>>>>> you do anything.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 8:07 PM, John Woodfield <
>>>>>> <john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz>john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> With the new unlock codes and firmware are they still killing the
>>>>>>> EIRP of the gear even in the UNII3 bands? I've been scared to load it on
>>>>>>> anything...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> John Woodfield, President
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Delmarva WiFi Inc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 410-870-WiFi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: "James Craig" < <ja...@ubnt.com>ja...@ubnt.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 3:29pm
>>>>>>> To: <af@afmug.com>af@afmug.com
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Guys,
>>>>>>> There are actually two sets of "DFS" unlocks.  The older unlock is
>>>>>>> from a few years ago to unlock DFS on RM5/NanoBridge/NanoStation.  Those
>>>>>>> keys will not unlock PowerBeam/NanoBeam or AC products.
>>>>>>> NanoBeam/PowerBeamM units will require 5.6.3 + unlock codes
>>>>>>> generated in the last few months (June 2015).
>>>>>>> AC products can be unlocked as well, but this is currently only
>>>>>>> available on 7.2/8.0 beta firmware.  R5AC-PTP and PTMP models are 
>>>>>>> limited
>>>>>>> to bands above 5470MHz due to airPrism filtering.  The R5-AC-PRISM will
>>>>>>> have full U-NII band support.
>>>>>>> If you need new codes/stickers for PowerBeamM/NanoBeamM or AC
>>>>>>> products, you can request them here:
>>>>>>> <https://www.ubnt.com/fcclabelrequest/>
>>>>>>> https://www.ubnt.com/fcclabelrequest/
>>>>>>> Please feel free to email me directly if you have any questions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 3:13 PM, < <jaldri...@totalhighspeed.net>
>>>>>>> jaldri...@totalhighspeed.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We have been using keys with the nanostations with no problem. I
>>>>>>>> cannot get the powerbeams to work at all.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Dec 16, 2015, at 2:10 PM, Ben Moore < <ben.mo...@ubnt.com>
>>>>>>>> ben.mo...@ubnt.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes, they are...Please check with support team if they are not
>>>>>>>> showing up for you as could be something to do with the unlock code -
>>>>>>>> <supp...@ubnt.com>supp...@ubnt.com
>>>>>>>> I will also ask them to chime in here.
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Ben
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 1:07 PM, < <jaldri...@totalhighspeed.net>
>>>>>>>> jaldri...@totalhighspeed.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So are powerbeams not capable?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Dec 16, 2015, at 2:01 PM, Ben Moore < <ben.mo...@ubnt.com>
>>>>>>>>> ben.mo...@ubnt.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes, datasheets are being updated (most are done, just not
>>>>>>>>> uploaded yet).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Mathew Howard <
>>>>>>>>> <mhoward...@gmail.com>mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Well, right. that was the case up until airOS 5.6.3 was
>>>>>>>>>> released... I expect they'll update the data sheets when the radios 
>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>> shipping with the new firmware.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 11:11 AM, <
>>>>>>>>>> <jaldri...@totalhighspeed.net>jaldri...@totalhighspeed.net>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I was just stating what the data sheet says about the US version
>>>>>>>>>>> versus worldwide version. I know that we have been buying nanobeams 
>>>>>>>>>>> And
>>>>>>>>>>> using them just fine we ordered powerbeams this last time and 
>>>>>>>>>>> cannot do
>>>>>>>>>>> anything other than 5725-5850.
>>>>>>>>>>> <image1.PNG>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 16, 2015, at 10:50 AM, Mathew Howard <
>>>>>>>>>>> <mhoward...@gmail.com>mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You most certainly can use the US radios in 5150-5250, and
>>>>>>>>>>> whoever said that only the world version supports it is wrong.
>>>>>>>>>>> You just need to upgrade the firmware to 5.6.3, and enter the
>>>>>>>>>>> unlock key - which you do need to request from UBNT.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 10:39 AM, Ken Hohhof < <af...@kwisp.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ben, what does “approvals are in” mean?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I don’t give a rat’s ass whether you have approvals in.  I want
>>>>>>>>>>>> to know if I can order equipment for a customer install, upgrade 
>>>>>>>>>>>> to latest
>>>>>>>>>>>> released firmware if necessary, and operate it in the 5150-5250 
>>>>>>>>>>>> band.
>>>>>>>>>>>> That’s all that matters to me.  Anything else is your internal 
>>>>>>>>>>>> process to
>>>>>>>>>>>> get to what I need, which is a radio I can buy from my distributor 
>>>>>>>>>>>> and send
>>>>>>>>>>>> out with an installer to do a customer install off a Rocket M5 AP 
>>>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>> installed 8 months ago.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> When I go to the grocery store to buy 2% milk, they don’t tell
>>>>>>>>>>>> me the farmer has bought a cow, they either have 2% milk on the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> shelf or
>>>>>>>>>>>> they don’t.  Status reports on the feeding and milking of the cow 
>>>>>>>>>>>> don’t
>>>>>>>>>>>> give me something to pour on my cereal.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Ben Moore <ben.mo...@ubnt.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 16, 2015 10:23 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* <af@afmug.com>af@afmug.com
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Guys -
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The approvals for both lower band and DFS are in.  Same w it AC
>>>>>>>>>>>> gear.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ben
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 9:05 AM, Ken Hohhof < <af...@kwisp.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is just incredible.  They've been screwing around with
>>>>>>>>>>>>> this for about 8 months.  Ubiquiti seems to be giving the middle 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> finger to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the US market.  I am going to have to look at ripping out some 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> APs and PTP
>>>>>>>>>>>>> links I put up back in April and replacing them with something 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> else.  I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't know how to explain to a customer that I can't order 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> equipment for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> their service because my vendor has their head up their ass, that 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>>>> reflects badly on me for using their equipment.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jaldri...@totalhighspeed.net>jaldri...@totalhighspeed.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 4:25 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: <af@afmug.com>af@afmug.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Only the world version supports it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 15, 2015, at 11:06 PM, Ken Hohhof < <af...@kwisp.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does anybody know if the NBE-M5-19 and PBE-M5-300/400/620
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> allow 5150-5250 MHz with release firmware now?  And what is the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> likelihood
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any product I bought from a distributor today would support this 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> band out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the box without requesting a key from Ubiquiti?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You'd think Ubiquiti would have this somewhere, but I can't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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