Headed to check out a link that was upgraded to new firmware and keys that
dropped completely.  Wish me luck.
On Dec 17, 2015 10:50 AM, "Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:

> If I remember correctly, they it drops to 16 or 17 dbm (from 26)... so it
> is a pretty huge drop.
>
> On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 11:14 AM, John Woodfield <john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz>
> wrote:
>
>> Thats all fine and great. The question is how far does it lower the TX
>> power.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> John Woodfield, President
>>
>> Delmarva WiFi Inc.
>>
>> 410-870-WiFi
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: "Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 10:05pm
>> To: "af" <af@afmug.com>
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1
>>
>> Yes, once you activate the revised UNII rules, it it will lower the EIRP
>> in UNII-3, however just upgrading the firmware won't change anything (until
>> you enter the key) and you can use the key again to get the higher Tx Power
>> back (and disable UNII-1/2)... of course if you lose the link when the
>> power drops, that won't help you... if a link is questionable, I would just
>> try lowering the tx power using test mode to see what happens before you do
>> anything.
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 8:07 PM, John Woodfield <john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> With the new unlock codes and firmware are they still killing the EIRP
>>> of the gear even in the UNII3 bands? I've been scared to load it on
>>> anything...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> John Woodfield, President
>>>
>>> Delmarva WiFi Inc.
>>>
>>> 410-870-WiFi
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: "James Craig" <ja...@ubnt.com>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 3:29pm
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1
>>>
>>> Hi Guys,
>>> There are actually two sets of "DFS" unlocks.  The older unlock is from
>>> a few years ago to unlock DFS on RM5/NanoBridge/NanoStation.  Those keys
>>> will not unlock PowerBeam/NanoBeam or AC products.
>>> NanoBeam/PowerBeamM units will require 5.6.3 + unlock codes generated in
>>> the last few months (June 2015).
>>> AC products can be unlocked as well, but this is currently only
>>> available on 7.2/8.0 beta firmware.  R5AC-PTP and PTMP models are limited
>>> to bands above 5470MHz due to airPrism filtering.  The R5-AC-PRISM will
>>> have full U-NII band support.
>>> If you need new codes/stickers for PowerBeamM/NanoBeamM or AC products,
>>> you can request them here:
>>> https://www.ubnt.com/fcclabelrequest/
>>> Please feel free to email me directly if you have any questions.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 3:13 PM, <jaldri...@totalhighspeed.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> We have been using keys with the nanostations with no problem. I cannot
>>>> get the powerbeams to work at all.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 16, 2015, at 2:10 PM, Ben Moore <ben.mo...@ubnt.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Yes, they are...Please check with support team if they are not showing
>>>> up for you as could be something to do with the unlock code -
>>>> supp...@ubnt.com
>>>> I will also ask them to chime in here.
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Ben
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 1:07 PM, <jaldri...@totalhighspeed.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> So are powerbeams not capable?
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 16, 2015, at 2:01 PM, Ben Moore <ben.mo...@ubnt.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, datasheets are being updated (most are done, just not uploaded
>>>>> yet).
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, right. that was the case up until airOS 5.6.3 was released... I
>>>>>> expect they'll update the data sheets when the radios are shipping with 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> new firmware.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 11:11 AM, <jaldri...@totalhighspeed.net>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I was just stating what the data sheet says about the US version
>>>>>>> versus worldwide version. I know that we have been buying nanobeams And
>>>>>>> using them just fine we ordered powerbeams this last time and cannot do
>>>>>>> anything other than 5725-5850.
>>>>>>> <image1.PNG>
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Dec 16, 2015, at 10:50 AM, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You most certainly can use the US radios in 5150-5250, and whoever
>>>>>>> said that only the world version supports it is wrong.
>>>>>>> You just need to upgrade the firmware to 5.6.3, and enter the unlock
>>>>>>> key - which you do need to request from UBNT.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 10:39 AM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ben, what does “approvals are in” mean?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I don’t give a rat’s ass whether you have approvals in.  I want to
>>>>>>>> know if I can order equipment for a customer install, upgrade to latest
>>>>>>>> released firmware if necessary, and operate it in the 5150-5250 band.
>>>>>>>> That’s all that matters to me.  Anything else is your internal process 
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> get to what I need, which is a radio I can buy from my distributor and 
>>>>>>>> send
>>>>>>>> out with an installer to do a customer install off a Rocket M5 AP we
>>>>>>>> installed 8 months ago.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When I go to the grocery store to buy 2% milk, they don’t tell me
>>>>>>>> the farmer has bought a cow, they either have 2% milk on the shelf or 
>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>> don’t.  Status reports on the feeding and milking of the cow don’t 
>>>>>>>> give me
>>>>>>>> something to pour on my cereal.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *From:* Ben Moore <ben.mo...@ubnt.com>
>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 16, 2015 10:23 AM
>>>>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Guys -
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The approvals for both lower band and DFS are in.  Same w it AC
>>>>>>>> gear.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Ben
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 9:05 AM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This is just incredible.  They've been screwing around with this
>>>>>>>>> for about 8 months.  Ubiquiti seems to be giving the middle finger to 
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> US market.  I am going to have to look at ripping out some APs and PTP
>>>>>>>>> links I put up back in April and replacing them with something else.  
>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> don't know how to explain to a customer that I can't order equipment 
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> their service because my vendor has their head up their ass, that just
>>>>>>>>> reflects badly on me for using their equipment.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: jaldri...@totalhighspeed.net
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 4:25 AM
>>>>>>>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Only the world version supports it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Dec 15, 2015, at 11:06 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Does anybody know if the NBE-M5-19 and PBE-M5-300/400/620 allow
>>>>>>>>>> 5150-5250 MHz with release firmware now?  And what is the likelihood 
>>>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>>>> product I bought from a distributor today would support this band 
>>>>>>>>>> out of
>>>>>>>>>> the box without requesting a key from Ubiquiti?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You'd think Ubiquiti would have this somewhere, but I can't find
>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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