Headed to check out a link that was upgraded to new firmware and keys that dropped completely. Wish me luck. On Dec 17, 2015 10:50 AM, "Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:
> If I remember correctly, they it drops to 16 or 17 dbm (from 26)... so it > is a pretty huge drop. > > On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 11:14 AM, John Woodfield <john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz> > wrote: > >> Thats all fine and great. The question is how far does it lower the TX >> power. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> John Woodfield, President >> >> Delmarva WiFi Inc. >> >> 410-870-WiFi >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: "Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 10:05pm >> To: "af" <af@afmug.com> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1 >> >> Yes, once you activate the revised UNII rules, it it will lower the EIRP >> in UNII-3, however just upgrading the firmware won't change anything (until >> you enter the key) and you can use the key again to get the higher Tx Power >> back (and disable UNII-1/2)... of course if you lose the link when the >> power drops, that won't help you... if a link is questionable, I would just >> try lowering the tx power using test mode to see what happens before you do >> anything. >> >> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 8:07 PM, John Woodfield <john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz> >> wrote: >> >>> With the new unlock codes and firmware are they still killing the EIRP >>> of the gear even in the UNII3 bands? I've been scared to load it on >>> anything... >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> John Woodfield, President >>> >>> Delmarva WiFi Inc. >>> >>> 410-870-WiFi >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: "James Craig" <ja...@ubnt.com> >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 3:29pm >>> To: af@afmug.com >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1 >>> >>> Hi Guys, >>> There are actually two sets of "DFS" unlocks. The older unlock is from >>> a few years ago to unlock DFS on RM5/NanoBridge/NanoStation. Those keys >>> will not unlock PowerBeam/NanoBeam or AC products. >>> NanoBeam/PowerBeamM units will require 5.6.3 + unlock codes generated in >>> the last few months (June 2015). >>> AC products can be unlocked as well, but this is currently only >>> available on 7.2/8.0 beta firmware. R5AC-PTP and PTMP models are limited >>> to bands above 5470MHz due to airPrism filtering. The R5-AC-PRISM will >>> have full U-NII band support. >>> If you need new codes/stickers for PowerBeamM/NanoBeamM or AC products, >>> you can request them here: >>> https://www.ubnt.com/fcclabelrequest/ >>> Please feel free to email me directly if you have any questions. >>> >>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 3:13 PM, <jaldri...@totalhighspeed.net> wrote: >>> >>>> We have been using keys with the nanostations with no problem. I cannot >>>> get the powerbeams to work at all. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On Dec 16, 2015, at 2:10 PM, Ben Moore <ben.mo...@ubnt.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Yes, they are...Please check with support team if they are not showing >>>> up for you as could be something to do with the unlock code - >>>> supp...@ubnt.com >>>> I will also ask them to chime in here. >>>> Thanks, >>>> Ben >>>> >>>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 1:07 PM, <jaldri...@totalhighspeed.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> So are powerbeams not capable? >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> On Dec 16, 2015, at 2:01 PM, Ben Moore <ben.mo...@ubnt.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Yes, datasheets are being updated (most are done, just not uploaded >>>>> yet). >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Well, right. that was the case up until airOS 5.6.3 was released... I >>>>>> expect they'll update the data sheets when the radios are shipping with >>>>>> the >>>>>> new firmware. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 11:11 AM, <jaldri...@totalhighspeed.net> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I was just stating what the data sheet says about the US version >>>>>>> versus worldwide version. I know that we have been buying nanobeams And >>>>>>> using them just fine we ordered powerbeams this last time and cannot do >>>>>>> anything other than 5725-5850. >>>>>>> <image1.PNG> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Dec 16, 2015, at 10:50 AM, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You most certainly can use the US radios in 5150-5250, and whoever >>>>>>> said that only the world version supports it is wrong. >>>>>>> You just need to upgrade the firmware to 5.6.3, and enter the unlock >>>>>>> key - which you do need to request from UBNT. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 10:39 AM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ben, what does “approvals are in” mean? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I don’t give a rat’s ass whether you have approvals in. I want to >>>>>>>> know if I can order equipment for a customer install, upgrade to latest >>>>>>>> released firmware if necessary, and operate it in the 5150-5250 band. >>>>>>>> That’s all that matters to me. Anything else is your internal process >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> get to what I need, which is a radio I can buy from my distributor and >>>>>>>> send >>>>>>>> out with an installer to do a customer install off a Rocket M5 AP we >>>>>>>> installed 8 months ago. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> When I go to the grocery store to buy 2% milk, they don’t tell me >>>>>>>> the farmer has bought a cow, they either have 2% milk on the shelf or >>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>> don’t. Status reports on the feeding and milking of the cow don’t >>>>>>>> give me >>>>>>>> something to pour on my cereal. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *From:* Ben Moore <ben.mo...@ubnt.com> >>>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 16, 2015 10:23 AM >>>>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Guys - >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The approvals for both lower band and DFS are in. Same w it AC >>>>>>>> gear. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>> Ben >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 9:05 AM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> This is just incredible. They've been screwing around with this >>>>>>>>> for about 8 months. Ubiquiti seems to be giving the middle finger to >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> US market. I am going to have to look at ripping out some APs and PTP >>>>>>>>> links I put up back in April and replacing them with something else. >>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>> don't know how to explain to a customer that I can't order equipment >>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>> their service because my vendor has their head up their ass, that just >>>>>>>>> reflects badly on me for using their equipment. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: jaldri...@totalhighspeed.net >>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 4:25 AM >>>>>>>>> To: af@afmug.com >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Only the world version supports it. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Dec 15, 2015, at 11:06 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Does anybody know if the NBE-M5-19 and PBE-M5-300/400/620 allow >>>>>>>>>> 5150-5250 MHz with release firmware now? And what is the likelihood >>>>>>>>>> any >>>>>>>>>> product I bought from a distributor today would support this band >>>>>>>>>> out of >>>>>>>>>> the box without requesting a key from Ubiquiti? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You'd think Ubiquiti would have this somewhere, but I can't find >>>>>>>>>> it. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >