Yes, that is correct, nothing to buy, nothing to maintain, no up front costs 
just sell and  install.  


From: Mathew Howard 
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2016 3:13 PM
To: af 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

So if we could do it over a VPN tunnel (I know the content providers are saying 
no to that at the moment), you could do it with almost no startup costs, 
correct? In that case, you could potentially setup a system with, say, 50 
customers on it, and not require anything more than 100-200meg of extra 
capacity on your upstreams - which would likely be somewhat offset by a 
reduction in Netflix/streaming traffic. 


On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 4:02 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

  Yeah,  you can do just a per stream connection, so depending on how many 
people are streaming it could be much less than 2 gig. 

  From: Mathew Howard 
  Sent: Friday, January 08, 2016 2:50 PM
  To: af 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

  2-5meg is do-able over a decent wireless network... not a whole lot different 
than Neflix, really. Needing 2gbps to Utah is a problem though. 


  On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 3:44 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

    I have used Realchoice over a hotel wifi and it worked just as good as 
Netflix.  
    Looked great to me.  

    From: Tim Reichhart 
    Sent: Friday, January 08, 2016 2:41 PM
    To: af@afmug.com 
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV


    The issue I am seeing right now is that it will not work over on wireless 
ap to wireless cpe. The 2 companies I already spoken to said that: 1 its going 
to cost about 100k to do with licensing and servers 2. always 2-5meg 
connections and your going have to have at lease 2-3gb fiber connection line to 
there office to do this.  Unless realchoice tv is able to do something that is 
not going to cost 100k to start up. Its better suited to be on dsl or fiber 
connection I dont think WISP's would be able to do iptv.

    Tim 


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      -----Original Message-----
      From: "Paul Stewart" <p...@paulstewart.org>
      To: af@afmug.com
      Date: 01/08/16 03:36 PM
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV


        
      Very interesting. Thanks…



      Quite likely HLS using H265 - very cool stuff, quite "cutting edge"..



      From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
      Sent: Friday, January 8, 2016 2:43 PM
      To: af@afmug.com
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV



      HLS is the only thing I know for certain. 



      From: Paul Stewart

      Sent: Friday, January 8, 2016 10:01 AM

      To: af@afmug.com

      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

       
       


       
      H.265 by chance or just H.264?



      From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
      Sent: Friday, January 8, 2016 9:52 AM
      To: af@afmug.com
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV



      Yes, you only need a connection.



      From: Paul Stewart

      Sent: Friday, January 08, 2016 4:34 AM

      To: af@afmug.com

      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

       
       


       
      So the big attraction to them is that you don't need your own 
middleware/encryption/channel guide etc and to develop the STB application?  
Just curious…



      From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
      Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2016 10:30 PM
      To: af@afmug.com
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV



      It is wholesale IPTV but via Android and the Nexus box with app.

      The cool  thing is the ability to go back in time with the on screen 
display tv guide. 



      From: Mike Hammett

      Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 8:28 PM

      To: af@afmug.com

      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

       
       


       
      Are they doing anything special or just wholesale IPTV? There's already 
at least one network doing wholesale IPTV in Cermak already.



      -----
      Mike Hammett
      Intelligent Computing Solutions
      http://www.ics-il.com



      Midwest Internet Exchange
      http://www.midwest-ix.com




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      From: "Chris Fabien" <ch...@lakenetmi.com>
      To: af@afmug.com
      Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2016 6:44:16 PM
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

      Is their headend in a datacenter or well connected to major networks 
already?  We have 2gigs of unused transport into 350 Cermak currently, wonder 
if it would be easy to get to from there.

      On Jan 7, 2016 6:26 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

        If you are taking just the streams in use, it is about 5 mbps per 
stream.

        If you are taking the whole feed with an edge server at your site, it 
is about 2 gbps full time. 



        From: Chris Fabien

        Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 4:25 PM

        To: af@afmug.com

        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

         
         


         
        How much transport is required and where in utah?



        On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 6:23 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

          Yes if you have very low cost transport to Utah, so that probably 
means no. 



          From: Josh Corson

          Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 4:22 PM

          To: af@afmug.com

          Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

           
           


           
          We are in Missouri...they are suppose to move customers in June 
1st...do you think we will have the option to get this prior to then?

          On Thursday, January 7, 2016, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

            Right now they are in the midst of a headend move.

            So far you will have to be able to get transport to their headend.  
Turns out that the content providers are still unhappy with various tunneling 
and VPN methods.



            If you are in Utah you can probably get the feed.  



            From: Josh Corson

            Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 4:15 PM

            To: javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');

            Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

             
             


             
            Did anyone get any more info on this? We are about to go into an 
apartment complex and they want us to offer TV service and was curious if 
Realchoice has gotten back to anyone.

            On Wednesday, December 16, 2015, Chuck McCown 
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ch...@wbmfg.com');> wrote:

              You are.



              From: Erich Kaiser

              Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 5:56 PM

              To: javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');

              Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

               
               


               
              Chuck,



              Put me on the list



              Thanks!





              Erich Kaiser

              North Central Tower

              javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','er...@northcentraltower.com');

              Office: 630-621-4804

              Cell: 630-777-9291



               
               


              On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 4:03 PM, Chuck McCown 
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ch...@wbmfg.com');> wrote:

                Yeah, I just threw it in their laps.  The wanted me to mediate 
with the WISPs but they don't move at the pace I am used to. 

                They have all your email addresses.  Hopefully you will get 
something direct. 



                From: Jaime Solorza

                Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 2:59 PM

                To: Animal Farm

                Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

                 
                 


                 
                " still awaiting? "       hum ,,,try this,

                I am still waiting on a document from RealChoice before 
proceeding with......



                Ducking under my phone

                 


                Jaime Solorza

                Wireless Systems Architect

                915-861-1390

                 


                On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Chuck McCown 
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ch...@wbmfg.com');> wrote:

                  Have not forgot about everyone.  Still awaiting a document 
from Realchoice before I can proceed. 

                 


                 
                 
                 
               


               
               
               


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            Operations Manager
            BlueBit Networks
            bluebitnetworks.com

            o. 573.355.5381 c. 573.259.3073

             


             
             
             


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          BlueBit Networks
          bluebitnetworks.com

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