Overall, the usage will go up (a lot) yes, but I know a lot of people have cancelled their satellite/cable tv to use only streaming services... my thinking is that if they have IPTV, some of them will be watching that instead of Netflix.
If we did IPTV, I don't think I'd even want to include local channels, as a wireless provider, I think it would make more sense to just offer to install OTA antennas. On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 4:30 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: > So IPTV replaces OTA or sat TV? Why will that reduce Netflix type > streaming? > > And I think about how lots of people (sometimes me included) use broadcast > TV, it’s on a lot. Lots of my customers seem to have Fox News on 24x7. > Plus can people DVR stuff off IPTV? I know sometimes I can’t watch HDTV > because my wife is recording 5 shows and all the tuners are tied up. > > *From:* Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Friday, January 08, 2016 4:13 PM > *To:* af <af@afmug.com> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV > > So if we could do it over a VPN tunnel (I know the content providers are > saying no to that at the moment), you could do it with almost no startup > costs, correct? In that case, you could potentially setup a system with, > say, 50 customers on it, and not require anything more than 100-200meg of > extra capacity on your upstreams - which would likely be somewhat offset by > a reduction in Netflix/streaming traffic. > > On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 4:02 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > >> Yeah, you can do just a per stream connection, so depending on how many >> people are streaming it could be much less than 2 gig. >> >> *From:* Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> >> *Sent:* Friday, January 08, 2016 2:50 PM >> *To:* af <af@afmug.com> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV >> >> 2-5meg is do-able over a decent wireless network... not a whole lot >> different than Neflix, really. Needing 2gbps to Utah is a problem though. >> >> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 3:44 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: >> >>> I have used Realchoice over a hotel wifi and it worked just as good as >>> Netflix. >>> Looked great to me. >>> >>> *From:* Tim Reichhart <timreichh...@hometowncable.net> >>> *Sent:* Friday, January 08, 2016 2:41 PM >>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV >>> >>> >>> The issue I am seeing right now is that it will not work over on >>> wireless ap to wireless cpe. The 2 companies I already spoken to said that: >>> 1 its going to cost about 100k to do with licensing and servers 2. always >>> 2-5meg connections and your going have to have at lease 2-3gb fiber >>> connection line to there office to do this. Unless realchoice tv is able >>> to do something that is not going to cost 100k to start up. Its better >>> suited to be on dsl or fiber connection I dont think WISP's would be able >>> to do iptv. >>> >>> Tim >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: "Paul Stewart" <p...@paulstewart.org> >>> To: af@afmug.com >>> Date: 01/08/16 03:36 PM >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV >>> >>> >>> >>> Very interesting. Thanks… >>> >>> >>> >>> Quite likely HLS using H265 - very cool stuff, quite "cutting edge".. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of* ch...@wbmfg.com >>> *Sent:* Friday, January 8, 2016 2:43 PM >>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV >>> >>> >>> >>> HLS is the only thing I know for certain. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Paul Stewart <p...@paulstewart.org> >>> >>> *Sent:* Friday, January 8, 2016 10:01 AM >>> >>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> H.265 by chance or just H.264? >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On >>> Behalf Of* Chuck McCown >>> *Sent:* Friday, January 8, 2016 9:52 AM >>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV >>> >>> >>> >>> Yes, you only need a connection. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Paul Stewart <p...@paulstewart.org> >>> >>> *Sent:* Friday, January 08, 2016 4:34 AM >>> >>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> So the big attraction to them is that you don't need your own >>> middleware/encryption/channel guide etc and to develop the STB >>> application? Just curious… >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On >>> Behalf Of* Chuck McCown >>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 7, 2016 10:30 PM >>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV >>> >>> >>> >>> It is wholesale IPTV but via Android and the Nexus box with app. >>> >>> The cool thing is the ability to go back in time with the on screen >>> display tv guide. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> >>> >>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 07, 2016 8:28 PM >>> >>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Are they doing anything special or just wholesale IPTV? There's already >>> at least one network doing wholesale IPTV in Cermak already. >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> http://www.ics-il.com >>> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>> >>> Midwest Internet Exchange >>> http://www.midwest-ix.com >>> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> *From:* "Chris Fabien" <ch...@lakenetmi.com> >>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 7, 2016 6:44:16 PM >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV >>> >>> Is their headend in a datacenter or well connected to major networks >>> already? We have 2gigs of unused transport into 350 Cermak currently, >>> wonder if it would be easy to get to from there. >>> >>> On Jan 7, 2016 6:26 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: >>> >>> If you are taking just the streams in use, it is about 5 mbps per stream. >>> >>> If you are taking the whole feed with an edge server at your site, it is >>> about 2 gbps full time. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Chris Fabien <ch...@lakenetmi.com> >>> >>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 07, 2016 4:25 PM >>> >>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> How much transport is required and where in utah? >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 6:23 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: >>> >>> Yes if you have very low cost transport to Utah, so that probably means >>> no. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Josh Corson <j...@bluebitnetworks.com> >>> >>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 07, 2016 4:22 PM >>> >>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> We are in Missouri...they are suppose to move customers in June 1st...do >>> you think we will have the option to get this prior to then? >>> >>> On Thursday, January 7, 2016, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: >>> >>> Right now they are in the midst of a headend move. >>> >>> So far you will have to be able to get transport to their headend. >>> Turns out that the content providers are still unhappy with various >>> tunneling and VPN methods. >>> >>> >>> >>> If you are in Utah you can probably get the feed. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Josh Corson >>> >>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 07, 2016 4:15 PM >>> >>> *To:* javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); >>> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Did anyone get any more info on this? We are about to go into an >>> apartment complex and they want us to offer TV service and was curious if >>> Realchoice has gotten back to anyone. >>> >>> On Wednesday, December 16, 2015, Chuck McCown >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ch...@wbmfg.com');> wrote: >>> >>> You are. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Erich Kaiser >>> >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 16, 2015 5:56 PM >>> >>> *To:* javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); >>> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Chuck, >>> >>> >>> >>> Put me on the list >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Erich Kaiser >>> >>> North Central Tower >>> >>> javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','er...@northcentraltower.com'); >>> >>> Office: 630-621-4804 <http://tel:630-621-4804/> >>> >>> Cell: 630-777-9291 <http://tel:630-777-9291/> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 4:03 PM, Chuck McCown >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ch...@wbmfg.com');> wrote: >>> >>> Yeah, I just threw it in their laps. The wanted me to mediate with the >>> WISPs but they don't move at the pace I am used to. >>> >>> They have all your email addresses. Hopefully you will get something >>> direct. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Jaime Solorza >>> >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 16, 2015 2:59 PM >>> >>> *To:* Animal Farm >>> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> " still awaiting? " hum ,,,try this, >>> >>> I am still waiting on a document from RealChoice before proceeding >>> with...... >>> >>> >>> >>> Ducking under my phone >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Jaime Solorza >>> >>> Wireless Systems Architect >>> >>> 915-861-1390 <http://tel:915-861-1390/> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Chuck McCown >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ch...@wbmfg.com');> wrote: >>> >>> Have not forgot about everyone. Still awaiting a document from >>> Realchoice before I can proceed. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> *Josh Corson* >>> Operations Manager >>> BlueBit Networks >>> bluebitnetworks.com >>> >>> o. 573.355.5381 <http://tel:573.355.5381/> c. 573.259.3073 >>> <http://tel:573.259.3073/> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> *Josh Corson* >>> Operations Manager >>> BlueBit Networks >>> bluebitnetworks.com >>> >>> o. 573.355.5381 <http://tel:573.355.5381/> c. 573.259.3073 >>> <http://tel:573.259.3073/> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > >
