If you had skin fall of that is frostbite. Maybe not a severe case but
worse than I had. I could barely walk for about two weeks.
On Sun, Jan 17, 2016, 9:08 AM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'd never heard of frostnip. They did turn color over the soles, so maybe
> it was just the beginning. I remember my feet being really sensitive for a
> while afterward, and skin did sluff off the bottoms. No toe damage other
> than the darker color (not black, and I didn't lose any toes). They look
> kind of normal now.
>
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
>
> On 1/17/2016 6:22 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
>
> Unless your skin turned black it wasn't frostbite, it was frostnip. I have
> had it twice and it still hurts like hell but the skin doesn't die off. It
> does permanently change though. My toes still have a shiney, slick
> appearance they didn't have before.
>
> But I'll give you this, as long as you never thaw those extremeties you
> can operate at a decent level. Once thawed and you actually have had some
> nerve damage it is impossible to walk, for instance, without looking like
> you are barefoot on sharp glass.
>
> Having said all that I hadn't considered that maybe the real story had
> them frozen the entire time and then just had to get various parts cut off.
>
> On Sat, Jan 16, 2016, 9:44 PM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> It's not impossible to be in freezing water for longer periods of time.
>>
>> When I was a teenager, I and a friend got a couple of snowmobiles stuck
>> in 18" of frozen slush when the temp was between -10 and -20 (about -10
>> when we got the snowmobiles stuck, and about -20 two hours later when we
>> gave up trying to get them completely out).
>>
>> We both fell in several times, and when we got back to the nearby cabin
>> we were both near hypothermia. My jeans were coated with about a 1" thick
>> layer of ice, and my boots had frozen to my feet.
>>
>> When my Dad got me home, my parents had to cut off both the jeans and the
>> boots. They put me in a tub of tepid water until I started looking more
>> normal. I did suffer some frostbite, and my feet still get cold faster than
>> about any other part of my body.
>>
>> None-the-less, I am living proof you can get wet in freezing water, and
>> survive at least a couple of hours.
>>
>> bp
>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>
>>
>> On 1/16/2016 4:02 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>
>> Yep, I was in 32 degree water with ice floating on it two times. Once
>> for about 90 seconds and once for about 2 minutes. It is an emergency for
>> certain.
>>
>> *From:* Lewis Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Saturday, January 16, 2016 4:38 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review - minor spoiler
>>
>>
>> Yea. The most obvious flaw was the ability to jump out of freezing water
>> and just traipse around. You have to at least strip down and get dry
>> clothes on to survive.
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 16, 2016, 5:29 PM Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>
>> Revenant
>>>
>>> Things bugged me in Gravity.
>>> Similar things bugged me in Revenant.
>>>
>>> While a true story, they were oblivious to the effect of hypothermia and
>>> cold water exposure in the winter.
>>> And that old story of climbing inside the carcass of a large mammal to
>>> get warm has been proven false many times. The animal gets cold about as
>>> quick as a steak taken off the grill in cold weather. Hunters know that
>>> they cool off pretty quick. Certainly would not retain heat all night
>>> long. Could provide shelter though.
>>>
>>> OK, I guess. It appeared to have been lots of work to make. Leo did a
>>> good job.
>>>
>>
