I'll bet. I tried to go snow skiing about ten years after my frostnip. When
I got back inside my feet ached something fierce. My wife put her warm
hands on then and it felt like she was burning them with a blow torch.
Bummer.
They say whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Actually it just
makes you a little weaker and less capable each time until you are finally
just a worthless old man.
Maybe I'll go hand some scotch even though it is early ;)
On Sun, Jan 17, 2016, 9:22 AM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Maybe because I was a young buck or something? Maybe it was getting put in
> the tepid water after I got home? I don't know. We started working on the
> snowmobiles around midnight, and rigged them up on boards on top of the
> slush around 2AM. Got home around 3AM, at which point we were doing the
> tub/water thing.
>
> It was pretty traumatic.
>
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
>
> On 1/17/2016 7:17 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
>
> If you had skin fall of that is frostbite. Maybe not a severe case but
> worse than I had. I could barely walk for about two weeks.
>
> On Sun, Jan 17, 2016, 9:08 AM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I'd never heard of frostnip. They did turn color over the soles, so maybe
>> it was just the beginning. I remember my feet being really sensitive for a
>> while afterward, and skin did sluff off the bottoms. No toe damage other
>> than the darker color (not black, and I didn't lose any toes). They look
>> kind of normal now.
>>
>> bp
>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>
>>
>> On 1/17/2016 6:22 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
>>
>> Unless your skin turned black it wasn't frostbite, it was frostnip. I
>> have had it twice and it still hurts like hell but the skin doesn't die
>> off. It does permanently change though. My toes still have a shiney, slick
>> appearance they didn't have before.
>>
>> But I'll give you this, as long as you never thaw those extremeties you
>> can operate at a decent level. Once thawed and you actually have had some
>> nerve damage it is impossible to walk, for instance, without looking like
>> you are barefoot on sharp glass.
>>
>> Having said all that I hadn't considered that maybe the real story had
>> them frozen the entire time and then just had to get various parts cut off.
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 16, 2016, 9:44 PM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> It's not impossible to be in freezing water for longer periods of time.
>>>
>>> When I was a teenager, I and a friend got a couple of snowmobiles stuck
>>> in 18" of frozen slush when the temp was between -10 and -20 (about -10
>>> when we got the snowmobiles stuck, and about -20 two hours later when we
>>> gave up trying to get them completely out).
>>>
>>> We both fell in several times, and when we got back to the nearby cabin
>>> we were both near hypothermia. My jeans were coated with about a 1" thick
>>> layer of ice, and my boots had frozen to my feet.
>>>
>>> When my Dad got me home, my parents had to cut off both the jeans and
>>> the boots. They put me in a tub of tepid water until I started looking more
>>> normal. I did suffer some frostbite, and my feet still get cold faster than
>>> about any other part of my body.
>>>
>>> None-the-less, I am living proof you can get wet in freezing water, and
>>> survive at least a couple of hours.
>>>
>>> bp
>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1/16/2016 4:02 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>>
>>> Yep, I was in 32 degree water with ice floating on it two times. Once
>>> for about 90 seconds and once for about 2 minutes. It is an emergency for
>>> certain.
>>>
>>> *From:* Lewis Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com>
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, January 16, 2016 4:38 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review - minor spoiler
>>>
>>>
>>> Yea. The most obvious flaw was the ability to jump out of freezing water
>>> and just traipse around. You have to at least strip down and get dry
>>> clothes on to survive.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jan 16, 2016, 5:29 PM Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Revenant
>>>>
>>>> Things bugged me in Gravity.
>>>> Similar things bugged me in Revenant.
>>>>
>>>> While a true story, they were oblivious to the effect of hypothermia
>>>> and cold water exposure in the winter.
>>>> And that old story of climbing inside the carcass of a large mammal to
>>>> get warm has been proven false many times. The animal gets cold about as
>>>> quick as a steak taken off the grill in cold weather. Hunters know that
>>>> they cool off pretty quick. Certainly would not retain heat all night
>>>> long. Could provide shelter though.
>>>>
>>>> OK, I guess. It appeared to have been lots of work to make. Leo did a
>>>> good job.
>>>>
>>>
