What I cant find is clarification on the ipv4 deployment requirements. We
missed the boat on getting another allocation because renumbering to meet
the in use requirement for the request (too many stacically configured IPs
in the middle of every subnet spread around the network) so we didnt get
them.

So now, since we couldnt even get a /24 because we didnt have enough of our
current allocation actively assigned, can I go to the marketplace with an
extra 100 and just pick up a /17 with no issues, or will ARIN decline the
transfer because we wouldnt have them in use? Are they still reclaiming
dormant allocations? You would think the market would flood with IP4 as IP6
is deployed because there would be allocations no longer meeting the
minimum deployment rules.

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 9:07 AM, Seth Mattinen <se...@rollernet.us> wrote:

> On 1/19/16 10:12 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote:
>
>> Lucky you.
>>
>> Here is what they told me on Oct 30 2015.
>>
>>
> That was unfortunately just too late to get space from the free pool. The
> IPv4 free pool hit zero on September 24, 2015 with warning flags out much
> before that. Now all you can do with ARIN for IPv4 is to get on the waiting
> list (good luck) and do the transfer pre-approval thing.
>
> Next, prepare to get fucked on the secondary market. Big time. Everyone
> that is selling IPv4 space knows they can screw you hard while you smile
> and say "thank you kind sir, may I have another?", but I would like to
> think it'll help spur IPv6 adoption.
>
> Fortunately most of the major content generates whining is reachable on
> IPv6. It might be worth your time to roll out IPv6 to your customers and
> see if that helps. If you haven't started on that by now... well, trial by
> fire time. Also, if you deploy IPv6 there is some IPv4 set aside at ARIN to
> help with transitions you could still qualify for. Although they could give
> you less than a /24 which IMO is just about useless unless the rest of the
> world's BGP filter boundaries change.
>
> The "nothing to lose" option is to work with your provider to allow
> announcing your existing IPv4 assignments via BGP directly. They'll still
> announce the aggregate but at the very least your AS will be attached to
> the more specifics.
>
> ~Seth
>



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