Yeah but they are not interested so much in /24’s as you mention … time/effort/paperwork etc isn’t worth it possibly although current rates would value it at $2k or so :)
It’s larger blocks such as /16 and /17 blocks where they get excited .. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 9:57 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked Netflix That sounds like a lot to the buyer. But I have a customer sitting on a pre-ARIN /24 (not sure if those can be sold the same way), but I wouldn’t even suggest he sell it for $200. Not worth the time and trouble. It’s like the people who email me offering $150 for a 4 letter domain I own, ignore the fact I wouldn’t sell it for less than $10K, why would I even spend my time on the paperwork for that little money? I assume the brokers take their cut as well. From: Paul Stewart <mailto:p...@paulstewart.org> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 6:52 AM To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great,now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked Netflix There’s lots of companies doing this… perhaps too many … At NANOG in Montreal I was tracked down by their “sales vultures” from several companies where they told me I “must” purchase IP blocks from them .. I kind of chuckled and politely told them where to fly to .. $6-$8 per IP address is what I’m hearing/seeing .. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 1:03 AM To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked Netflix isnt there an exchange now where people can sell their IP4 for small rapes? On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 12:00 AM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > wrote: I got a v4 block in May 2015... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340> Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343> 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 12:56 AM, Sterling Jacobson <sterl...@avative.net <mailto:sterl...@avative.net> > wrote: Yeah, I wish I could get IPv4. But I can’t. ARIN won’t give it to me, this fiber company started in 2013 so there was no way to obtain it. I have IPv6 assigned ARIN space, so I guess I’ll start using that as much as possible to avoid crap like this. I’m sure that comes with its own problems though. I can get all the cheap IPv4 I want from this data center. But the IP space probably originally came from Saudi Arabia or some foreign country, lol! From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 9:14 PM To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked Netflix Netflix is dramatically less likely to blacklist your blocks (AND take your correspondence seriously) if you announce your own IP space. From Netflix's perspective, blocks that are also used by a datacenter/colo space are more likely to contain VPN endpoints. I don't think they care about what the SWIP info shows. On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 6:49 PM, Sterling Jacobson <sterl...@avative.net <mailto:sterl...@avative.net> > wrote: It may be that. I get my IPv4 from a data center. They are my upstream provider. The blocks are SWIPed to my company though. I had to submit information to Hulu, Vudu, ABC.com and a few others a year ago because suddenly they all had me on some unknown blacklist at the same time. All of those providers have now white-listed my blocks and I no longer have issues (except maybe Vudu, who were really hard to get that done). From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 7:22 PM To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked Netflix If you don’t have direct allocation from ARIN, where are your blocks from? That may be part of the story. From: Sterling Jacobson <mailto:sterl...@avative.net> Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 7:56 PM To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked Netflix Except that I’m not on VPN or proxy. So they have wrongly allocated or listed my blocks as proxy/VPN. Doesn’t that break net neutrality for me? Not that the FCC is going to do anything about it. I just got off the phone. They asked me to email them my ASN, upstream and details. Hopefully they pull their heads out and get this working. Not like I can request a IPv4 block directly from ARIN. I DID that and they denied saying they have no more. So I’m stuck without their help. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of timothy steele Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 6:48 PM To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked Netflix Netflix is working on banning all proxy and most VPN users was on Engadget over a month ago there content providers are forcing them so when there telling you nothing they can do to help there telling the truth On Tue, Jan 19, 2016, 8:37 PM Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com <mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com> > wrote: Also reach out to Netflix on twitter, tell them you are a US ISP and your users are having issues watching content On Jan 19, 2016 7:25 PM, "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > wrote: Try NANOG? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340> Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343> 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 19, 2016 8:23 PM, "Sterling Jacobson" <sterl...@avative.net <mailto:sterl...@avative.net> > wrote: Anyone else start getting these calls today? My personal Netflix, on the same public IP block, seems to still work. But several of my customers are now calling in saying their Netflix is VPN, Proxy or using an Unblocker. Netflix is denying any sort of fix or solution for these customers, blaming it on the ISP. I'm sick of this crap. The customers don't care, they will just drop the ISP and get another, probably with IP blocks that aren't 'blacklisted' as VPN, or going through a datacenter. I had the same problem with Hulu, Vudu, ABC.com Disney.com and several others. Fortunately, all of those companies, except Vudu, fixed my problem by whitelisting my IPs. Vudu took a long time but I think I finally got a hold of the correct team of engineers and they fixed it. On the phone now with Netflix rep and one of her first questions was, "What is a public IP block?" :( -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
