We got our main block in June or so of 2015.
(barely)

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mike Hammett 
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 12:22 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked 
Netflix


  IPv4 was still available in 2015. I got some.  ;-)




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  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
  http://www.ics-il.com



  Midwest Internet Exchange
  http://www.midwest-ix.com




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  From: "Sterling Jacobson" <sterl...@avative.net>
  To: af@afmug.com
  Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 11:56:59 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked 
Netflix


  Yeah, I wish I could get IPv4.



  But I can’t.



  ARIN won’t give it to me, this fiber company started in 2013 so there was no 
way to obtain it.

  I have IPv6 assigned ARIN space, so I guess I’ll start using that as much as 
possible to avoid crap like this.

  I’m sure that comes with its own problems though.



  I can get all the cheap IPv4 I want from this data center.

  But the IP space probably originally came from Saudi Arabia or some foreign 
country, lol!



  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke
  Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 9:14 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for blocked 
Netflix



  Netflix is dramatically less likely to blacklist your blocks (AND take your 
correspondence seriously) if you announce your own IP space. From Netflix's 
perspective, blocks that are also used by a datacenter/colo space are more 
likely to contain VPN endpoints.

  I don't think they care about what the SWIP info shows.



  On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 6:49 PM, Sterling Jacobson <sterl...@avative.net> 
wrote:

    It may be that.



    I get my IPv4 from a data center.

    They are my upstream provider.

    The blocks are SWIPed to my company though.



    I had to submit information to Hulu, Vudu, ABC.com and a few others a year 
ago because suddenly they all had me on some unknown blacklist at the same time.



    All of those providers have now white-listed my blocks and I no longer have 
issues (except maybe Vudu, who were really hard to get that done).



    From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
    Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 7:22 PM
    To: af@afmug.com
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for 
blocked Netflix



    If you don’t have direct allocation from ARIN, where are your blocks from?  
That may be part of the story.



    From: Sterling Jacobson 

    Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 7:56 PM

    To: af@afmug.com 

    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for 
blocked Netflix



    Except that I’m not on VPN or proxy.



    So they have wrongly allocated or listed my blocks as proxy/VPN.



    Doesn’t that break net neutrality for me?

    Not that the FCC is going to do anything about it.



    I just got off the phone. They asked me to email them my ASN, upstream and 
details.



    Hopefully they pull their heads out and get this working.



    Not like I can request a IPv4 block directly from ARIN.

    I DID that and they denied saying they have no more.



    So I’m stuck without their help.



    From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of timothy steele
    Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 6:48 PM
    To: af@afmug.com
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for 
blocked Netflix



    Netflix is working on banning all proxy and most VPN users was on Engadget 
over a month ago there content providers are forcing  them so when there 
telling you nothing they can do to help there telling the truth  



    On Tue, Jan 19, 2016, 8:37 PM Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:

      Also reach out to Netflix on twitter, tell them you are a US ISP and your 
users are having issues watching content

      On Jan 19, 2016 7:25 PM, "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> 
wrote:

        Try NANOG?

        Josh Luthman
        Office: 937-552-2340
        Direct: 937-552-2343
        1100 Wayne St
        Suite 1337
        Troy, OH 45373

        On Jan 19, 2016 8:23 PM, "Sterling Jacobson" <sterl...@avative.net> 
wrote:

          Anyone else start getting these calls today?

          My personal Netflix, on the same public IP block, seems to still work.

          But several of my customers are now calling in saying their Netflix 
is VPN, Proxy or using an Unblocker.

          Netflix is denying any sort of fix or solution for these customers, 
blaming it on the ISP.

          I'm sick of this crap.

          The customers don't care, they will just drop the ISP and get 
another, probably with IP blocks that aren't 'blacklisted' as VPN, or going 
through a datacenter.

          I had the same problem with Hulu, Vudu, ABC.com Disney.com and 
several others.

          Fortunately, all of those companies, except Vudu, fixed my problem by 
whitelisting my IPs.

          Vudu took a long time but I think I finally got a hold of the correct 
team of engineers and they fixed it.

          On the phone now with Netflix rep and one of her first questions was, 
"What is a public IP block?"

          :(




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