Now I want to know what kind of residential customer pays enough to make the ROI for their own dedicated AF24 PTP link + installation + your cost of having a matching AF24 on the other end + your fractional cost of keeping additional AF24 spares.
On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 1:33 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote: > People have trees in their yards. Here is a PTP link we had to do with a > B5-Lite instead of the AF24. > > > Rory > > -----Original Message----- > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds > Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 2:24 PM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starry Internet - Ex Aereo WISP - Announced > > That.... doesn't make any sense :P > > On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 3:21 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net> > wrote: > > I live in the flippin desert and I struggle to get AF24’s to work on > houses. > > > > > > > > Rory > > > > > > > > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson > > Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 12:18 PM > > To: af@afmug.com > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starry Internet - Ex Aereo WISP - Announced > > > > > > > > I could see Vivint making it work with LoS installations every few > houses. > > > > > > > > Not at scale in downtown Boston though. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown > > Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 12:01 PM > > To: af@afmug.com > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starry Internet - Ex Aereo WISP - Announced > > > > > > > > I cannot understand now anyone that has worked in this space thinks 60 > > GHz is good for PMP. > > > > Perhaps on the moon or in the sahara from a tower. > > > > > > > > From: Rory Conaway > > > > Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 11:58 AM > > > > To: af@afmug.com > > > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starry Internet - Ex Aereo WISP - Announced > > > > > > > > Vivint started off with a bunch of college guys telling them how easy > > it was to build their own equipment and it went downhill from there. > > Right now they are just floundering trying to figure out what to do > > next. They really don’t have a plan or a clue. $50M dollars, poof. > > > > > > > > Rory > > > > > > > > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Randy Cosby > > Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 11:53 AM > > To: af@afmug.com > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starry Internet - Ex Aereo WISP - Announced > > > > > > > > I wonder if Vivint’s new 60GHz plans are based on similar “millimeter > > wave band active phased array technology” > > > > > > > > -- > > > > On September 21, 2015, the board of directors of the Company approved > > a plan to transition Vivint’s wireless internet business from a 5Ghz > > to a 60Ghz-based network technology that provides higher data > > transmission speeds. The Company will continue to service its existing > 5Ghz subscribers. > > As a result of this transition, the Company will discontinue the > > build-out of additional 5Ghz networks and the installation of new 5Ghz > customers. > > Vivint expects the shift to the new technology will begin with a set > > of 60Ghz test installations in 2016. During the three months ended > > September 30, 2015, the Company recorded wireless internet-related > > restructuring and asset impairment charges totaling $58.0 million. > > These charges included > > $52.1 million of asset impairment charges related to write downs of > > network assets, subscriber acquisition costs, certain intellectual > > property and goodwill. The $58 million charge also included $5.9 > > million in restructuring costs related to employee severance, > > termination benefits and the write offs of certain vendor contracts. > > > > > > > > http://s2.q4cdn.com/226156452/files/doc_financials/quarter/Q32015/APX- > > Group-3rd-Quarter-2015-Earnings-Release-final.pdf > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza > > Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 11:30 AM > > To: Animal Farm <af@afmug.com> > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starry Internet - Ex Aereo WISP - Announced > > > > > > > > BFM Sterling BFM > > > > On Jan 28, 2016 11:15 AM, "Sterling Jacobson" <sterl...@avative.net> > wrote: > > > > Lol! > > > > > > > > Boston. > > > > > > > > I can’t see how this service is going to MIMO it’s way around all the > > corners and buildings downtown to get at the window CPE’s at those > > higher frequencies. > > > > > > > > Maybe it’s magic, I don’t know. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown > > Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 11:08 AM > > To: af@afmug.com > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starry Internet - Ex Aereo WISP - Announced > > > > > > > > Shall we start a pool, or maybe 7 of them? > > > > > > > > Launch date. > > > > First customers installed. > > > > First news report of really unhappy customers. > > > > First press release that they are making changes to the product. > > > > Date CEO is fired. > > > > Date Company shuts down operation for re-tooling. > > > > Date Assets acquired by another company. > > > > > > > > From: Paul McCall > > > > Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 11:04 AM > > > > To: af@afmug.com > > > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starry Internet - Ex Aereo WISP - Announced > > > > > > > > The real play here is probably OPM, taking big $$ salaries until it > > blows up J > > > > > > > > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof > > Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 11:54 AM > > To: af@afmug.com > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starry Internet - Ex Aereo WISP - Announced > > > > > > > > That article almost makes you think the fancy router is the real play > here. > > > > > > > > Also, in case it wasn’t already posted, here is the FCC application: > > > > > > > > https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/els/reports/442_Print.cfm?mode=current&appl > > ication_seq=69226&license_seq=69930 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Travis Johnson > > > > Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 10:37 AM > > > > To: af@afmug.com > > > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starry Internet - Ex Aereo WISP - Announced > > > > > > > > http://www.xconomy.com/new-york/2016/01/28/kanojia-returns-with-a-star > > ry-plan-for-wireless-internet-smart-homes/ > > > > On 1/28/2016 9:13 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > > > > Also they filed an experimental application with the FCC. So does > > that mean they can’t charge users? > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Ken Hohhof > > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 12:53 PM > > > > To: af@afmug.com > > > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starry Internet - Ex Aereo WISP - Announced > > > > > > > > I’m not sure licensed band equipment needs equipment approval filed > > with the FCC. > > > > > > > > From: Keefe John > > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 12:16 PM > > > > To: af@afmug.com > > > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starry Internet - Ex Aereo WISP - Announced > > > > > > > > are they making this equipment or someone else? We should see > > something on the FCC website... > > > > On 1/27/2016 12:14 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > > > > 38 GHz I think. It was discussed in another thread. > > > > > > > > > > > > Josh Luthman > > Office: 937-552-2340 > > Direct: 937-552-2343 > > 1100 Wayne St > > Suite 1337 > > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 1:14 PM, Keefe John <keefe...@ethoplex.com> > wrote: > > > > what band are they using? > > > > On 1/27/2016 12:05 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > > > > "That said, it comes with a 3.6-inch touchscreen and runs on Android, > > going above and beyond simply facilitating a connection. Starry > > Station includes software called the Internet Health Score, which is > > constantly monitoring the connection and doing speed tests powered by > > Ookla." > > > > Oh FFS. > > > > This shit is such a game to these people. > > > > On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 11:25 AM, Gino Villarini <ginovi...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > Here you go… > > > > > > http://techcrunch.com/2016/01/27/starry-internet-is-aereo-founder-chet > > -kanojias-latest-salvo-in-the-war-on-isps/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >