Now I want to know what kind of residential customer pays enough to make
the ROI for their own dedicated AF24 PTP link + installation + your cost of
having a matching AF24 on the other end + your fractional cost of keeping
additional AF24 spares.

On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 1:33 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
wrote:

> People have trees in their yards.  Here is a PTP link we had to do with a
> B5-Lite instead of the AF24.
>
>
> Rory
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 2:24 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starry Internet - Ex Aereo WISP - Announced
>
> That.... doesn't make any sense :P
>
> On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 3:21 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
> wrote:
> > I live in the flippin desert and I struggle to get AF24’s to work on
> houses.
> >
> >
> >
> > Rory
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson
> > Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 12:18 PM
> > To: af@afmug.com
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starry Internet - Ex Aereo WISP - Announced
> >
> >
> >
> > I could see Vivint making it work with LoS installations every few
> houses.
> >
> >
> >
> > Not at scale in downtown Boston though.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
> > Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 12:01 PM
> > To: af@afmug.com
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starry Internet - Ex Aereo WISP - Announced
> >
> >
> >
> > I cannot understand now anyone that has worked in this space thinks 60
> > GHz is good for PMP.
> >
> > Perhaps on the moon or in the sahara from a tower.
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Rory Conaway
> >
> > Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 11:58 AM
> >
> > To: af@afmug.com
> >
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starry Internet - Ex Aereo WISP - Announced
> >
> >
> >
> > Vivint started off with a bunch of college guys telling them how easy
> > it was to build their own equipment and it went downhill from there.
> > Right now they are just floundering trying to figure out what to do
> > next.  They really don’t have a plan or a clue.  $50M dollars, poof.
> >
> >
> >
> > Rory
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Randy Cosby
> > Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 11:53 AM
> > To: af@afmug.com
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starry Internet - Ex Aereo WISP - Announced
> >
> >
> >
> > I wonder if Vivint’s new 60GHz plans are based on similar “millimeter
> > wave band active phased array technology”
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > On September 21, 2015, the board of directors of the Company approved
> > a plan to transition Vivint’s wireless internet business from a 5Ghz
> > to a 60Ghz-based network technology that provides higher data
> > transmission speeds. The Company will continue to service its existing
> 5Ghz subscribers.
> > As a result of this transition, the Company will discontinue the
> > build-out of additional 5Ghz networks and the installation of new 5Ghz
> customers.
> > Vivint expects the shift to the new technology will begin with a set
> > of 60Ghz test installations in 2016.  During the three months ended
> > September 30, 2015, the Company recorded wireless internet-related
> > restructuring and asset impairment charges totaling $58.0 million.
> > These charges included
> > $52.1 million of asset impairment charges related to write downs of
> > network assets, subscriber acquisition costs, certain intellectual
> > property and goodwill. The $58 million charge also included $5.9
> > million in restructuring costs related to employee severance,
> > termination benefits and the write offs of certain vendor contracts.
> >
> >
> >
> > http://s2.q4cdn.com/226156452/files/doc_financials/quarter/Q32015/APX-
> > Group-3rd-Quarter-2015-Earnings-Release-final.pdf
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
> > Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 11:30 AM
> > To: Animal Farm <af@afmug.com>
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starry Internet - Ex Aereo WISP - Announced
> >
> >
> >
> > BFM Sterling BFM
> >
> > On Jan 28, 2016 11:15 AM, "Sterling Jacobson" <sterl...@avative.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > Lol!
> >
> >
> >
> > Boston.
> >
> >
> >
> > I can’t see how this service is going to MIMO it’s way around all the
> > corners and buildings downtown to get at the window CPE’s at those
> > higher frequencies.
> >
> >
> >
> > Maybe it’s magic, I don’t know.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
> > Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 11:08 AM
> > To: af@afmug.com
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starry Internet - Ex Aereo WISP - Announced
> >
> >
> >
> > Shall we start a pool, or maybe 7 of them?
> >
> >
> >
> > Launch date.
> >
> > First customers installed.
> >
> > First news report of really unhappy customers.
> >
> > First press release that they are making changes to the product.
> >
> > Date CEO is fired.
> >
> > Date Company shuts down operation for re-tooling.
> >
> > Date Assets acquired by another company.
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Paul McCall
> >
> > Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 11:04 AM
> >
> > To: af@afmug.com
> >
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starry Internet - Ex Aereo WISP - Announced
> >
> >
> >
> > The real play here is probably OPM, taking big $$ salaries until it
> > blows up J
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
> > Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 11:54 AM
> > To: af@afmug.com
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starry Internet - Ex Aereo WISP - Announced
> >
> >
> >
> > That article almost makes you think the fancy router is the real play
> here.
> >
> >
> >
> > Also, in case it wasn’t already posted, here is the FCC application:
> >
> >
> >
> > https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/els/reports/442_Print.cfm?mode=current&appl
> > ication_seq=69226&license_seq=69930
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Travis Johnson
> >
> > Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 10:37 AM
> >
> > To: af@afmug.com
> >
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starry Internet - Ex Aereo WISP - Announced
> >
> >
> >
> > http://www.xconomy.com/new-york/2016/01/28/kanojia-returns-with-a-star
> > ry-plan-for-wireless-internet-smart-homes/
> >
> > On 1/28/2016 9:13 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
> >
> > Also they filed an experimental application with the FCC.  So does
> > that mean they can’t charge users?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Ken Hohhof
> >
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 12:53 PM
> >
> > To: af@afmug.com
> >
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starry Internet - Ex Aereo WISP - Announced
> >
> >
> >
> > I’m not sure licensed band equipment needs equipment approval filed
> > with the FCC.
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Keefe John
> >
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 12:16 PM
> >
> > To: af@afmug.com
> >
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starry Internet - Ex Aereo WISP - Announced
> >
> >
> >
> > are they making this equipment or someone else?  We should see
> > something on the FCC website...
> >
> > On 1/27/2016 12:14 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
> >
> > 38 GHz I think.  It was discussed in another thread.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Josh Luthman
> > Office: 937-552-2340
> > Direct: 937-552-2343
> > 1100 Wayne St
> > Suite 1337
> > Troy, OH 45373
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 1:14 PM, Keefe John <keefe...@ethoplex.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > what band are they using?
> >
> > On 1/27/2016 12:05 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
> >
> > "That said, it comes with a 3.6-inch touchscreen and runs on Android,
> > going above and beyond simply facilitating a connection. Starry
> > Station includes software called the Internet Health Score, which is
> > constantly monitoring the connection and doing speed tests powered by
> > Ookla."
> >
> > Oh FFS.
> >
> > This shit is such a game to these people.
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 11:25 AM, Gino Villarini <ginovi...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Here you go…
> >
> >
> > http://techcrunch.com/2016/01/27/starry-internet-is-aereo-founder-chet
> > -kanojias-latest-salvo-in-the-war-on-isps/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

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