Apparently no one reads your blog. ;-) 



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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

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From: "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 3:44:13 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starry Internet - Ex Aereo WISP - Announced 



We are building Galactus. 

Rory 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke 
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 2:42 PM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starry Internet - Ex Aereo WISP - Announced 


Now I want to know what kind of residential customer pays enough to make the 
ROI for their own dedicated AF24 PTP link + installation + your cost of having 
a matching AF24 on the other end + your fractional cost of keeping additional 
AF24 spares. 



On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 1:33 PM, Rory Conaway < r...@triadwireless.net > wrote: 


People have trees in their yards. Here is a PTP link we had to do with a 
B5-Lite instead of the AF24. 


Rory 



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From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds 
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 2:24 PM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starry Internet - Ex Aereo WISP - Announced 

That.... doesn't make any sense :P 

On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 3:21 PM, Rory Conaway < r...@triadwireless.net > wrote: 
> I live in the flippin desert and I struggle to get AF24’s to work on houses. 
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> Rory 
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> From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson 
> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 12:18 PM 
> To: af@afmug.com 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starry Internet - Ex Aereo WISP - Announced 
> 
> 
> 
> I could see Vivint making it work with LoS installations every few houses. 
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> Not at scale in downtown Boston though. 
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> From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown 
> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 12:01 PM 
> To: af@afmug.com 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starry Internet - Ex Aereo WISP - Announced 
> 
> 
> 
> I cannot understand now anyone that has worked in this space thinks 60 
> GHz is good for PMP. 
> 
> Perhaps on the moon or in the sahara from a tower. 
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> 
> From: Rory Conaway 
> 
> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 11:58 AM 
> 
> To: af@afmug.com 
> 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starry Internet - Ex Aereo WISP - Announced 
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> 
> Vivint started off with a bunch of college guys telling them how easy 
> it was to build their own equipment and it went downhill from there. 
> Right now they are just floundering trying to figure out what to do 
> next. They really don’t have a plan or a clue. $50M dollars, poof. 
> 
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> 
> Rory 
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> From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Randy Cosby 
> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 11:53 AM 
> To: af@afmug.com 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starry Internet - Ex Aereo WISP - Announced 
> 
> 
> 
> I wonder if Vivint’s new 60GHz plans are based on similar “millimeter 
> wave band active phased array technology” 
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> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> On September 21, 2015, the board of directors of the Company approved 
> a plan to transition Vivint’s wireless internet business from a 5Ghz 
> to a 60Ghz-based network technology that provides higher data 
> transmission speeds. The Company will continue to service its existing 5Ghz 
> subscribers. 
> As a result of this transition, the Company will discontinue the 
> build-out of additional 5Ghz networks and the installation of new 5Ghz 
> customers. 
> Vivint expects the shift to the new technology will begin with a set 
> of 60Ghz test installations in 2016. During the three months ended 
> September 30, 2015, the Company recorded wireless internet-related 
> restructuring and asset impairment charges totaling $58.0 million. 
> These charges included 
> $52.1 million of asset impairment charges related to write downs of 
> network assets, subscriber acquisition costs, certain intellectual 
> property and goodwill. The $58 million charge also included $5.9 
> million in restructuring costs related to employee severance, 
> termination benefits and the write offs of certain vendor contracts. 
> 
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> 
> http://s2.q4cdn.com/226156452/files/doc_financials/quarter/Q32015/APX- 
> Group-3rd-Quarter-2015-Earnings-Release-final.pdf 
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> From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza 
> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 11:30 AM 
> To: Animal Farm < af@afmug.com > 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starry Internet - Ex Aereo WISP - Announced 
> 
> 
> 
> BFM Sterling BFM 
> 
> On Jan 28, 2016 11:15 AM, "Sterling Jacobson" < sterl...@avative.net > wrote: 
> 
> Lol! 
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> Boston. 
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> I can’t see how this service is going to MIMO it’s way around all the 
> corners and buildings downtown to get at the window CPE’s at those 
> higher frequencies. 
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> 
> Maybe it’s magic, I don’t know. 
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> From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown 
> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 11:08 AM 
> To: af@afmug.com 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starry Internet - Ex Aereo WISP - Announced 
> 
> 
> 
> Shall we start a pool, or maybe 7 of them? 
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> 
> Launch date. 
> 
> First customers installed. 
> 
> First news report of really unhappy customers. 
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> First press release that they are making changes to the product. 
> 
> Date CEO is fired. 
> 
> Date Company shuts down operation for re-tooling. 
> 
> Date Assets acquired by another company. 
> 
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> 
> From: Paul McCall 
> 
> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 11:04 AM 
> 
> To: af@afmug.com 
> 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starry Internet - Ex Aereo WISP - Announced 
> 
> 
> 
> The real play here is probably OPM, taking big $$ salaries until it 
> blows up J 
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> 
> From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof 
> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 11:54 AM 
> To: af@afmug.com 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starry Internet - Ex Aereo WISP - Announced 
> 
> 
> 
> That article almost makes you think the fancy router is the real play here. 
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> 
> Also, in case it wasn’t already posted, here is the FCC application: 
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> 
> https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/els/reports/442_Print.cfm?mode=current&appl 
> ication_seq=69226&license_seq=69930 
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> From: Travis Johnson 
> 
> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 10:37 AM 
> 
> To: af@afmug.com 
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> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starry Internet - Ex Aereo WISP - Announced 
> 
> 
> 
> http://www.xconomy.com/new-york/2016/01/28/kanojia-returns-with-a-star 
> ry-plan-for-wireless-internet-smart-homes/ 
> 
> On 1/28/2016 9:13 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: 
> 
> Also they filed an experimental application with the FCC. So does 
> that mean they can’t charge users? 
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> 
> From: Ken Hohhof 
> 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 12:53 PM 
> 
> To: af@afmug.com 
> 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starry Internet - Ex Aereo WISP - Announced 
> 
> 
> 
> I’m not sure licensed band equipment needs equipment approval filed 
> with the FCC. 
> 
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> 
> From: Keefe John 
> 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 12:16 PM 
> 
> To: af@afmug.com 
> 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starry Internet - Ex Aereo WISP - Announced 
> 
> 
> 
> are they making this equipment or someone else? We should see 
> something on the FCC website... 
> 
> On 1/27/2016 12:14 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: 
> 
> 38 GHz I think. It was discussed in another thread. 
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> 
> Josh Luthman 
> Office: 937-552-2340 
> Direct: 937-552-2343 
> 1100 Wayne St 
> Suite 1337 
> Troy, OH 45373 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 1:14 PM, Keefe John < keefe...@ethoplex.com > wrote: 
> 
> what band are they using? 
> 
> On 1/27/2016 12:05 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: 
> 
> "That said, it comes with a 3.6-inch touchscreen and runs on Android, 
> going above and beyond simply facilitating a connection. Starry 
> Station includes software called the Internet Health Score, which is 
> constantly monitoring the connection and doing speed tests powered by 
> Ookla." 
> 
> Oh FFS. 
> 
> This shit is such a game to these people. 
> 
> On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 11:25 AM, Gino Villarini < ginovi...@gmail.com > 
> wrote: 
> 
> Here you go… 
> 
> 
> http://techcrunch.com/2016/01/27/starry-internet-is-aereo-founder-chet 
> -kanojias-latest-salvo-in-the-war-on-isps/ 
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