:P Yeah. 24GHz does *not* like obstructions. I'd even be nervous about
putting a 5X there, or any 5ghz for that matter. 2.4... fine.
On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 12:10 PM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Oh PuhLeeze. You think 24GHz is going to go through that?!?!
>
> Come on!
>
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
>
> On 1/28/2016 1:33 PM, Rory Conaway wrote:
>>
>> People have trees in their yards. Here is a PTP link we had to do with a
>> B5-Lite instead of the AF24.
>>
>>
>> Rory
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
>> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 2:24 PM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starry Internet - Ex Aereo WISP - Announced
>>
>> That.... doesn't make any sense :P
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 3:21 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I live in the flippin desert and I struggle to get AF24’s to work on
>>> houses.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rory
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 12:18 PM
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starry Internet - Ex Aereo WISP - Announced
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I could see Vivint making it work with LoS installations every few
>>> houses.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Not at scale in downtown Boston though.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 12:01 PM
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starry Internet - Ex Aereo WISP - Announced
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I cannot understand now anyone that has worked in this space thinks 60
>>> GHz is good for PMP.
>>>
>>> Perhaps on the moon or in the sahara from a tower.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Rory Conaway
>>>
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 11:58 AM
>>>
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starry Internet - Ex Aereo WISP - Announced
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Vivint started off with a bunch of college guys telling them how easy
>>> it was to build their own equipment and it went downhill from there.
>>> Right now they are just floundering trying to figure out what to do
>>> next. They really don’t have a plan or a clue. $50M dollars, poof.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rory
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Randy Cosby
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 11:53 AM
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starry Internet - Ex Aereo WISP - Announced
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I wonder if Vivint’s new 60GHz plans are based on similar “millimeter
>>> wave band active phased array technology”
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> On September 21, 2015, the board of directors of the Company approved
>>> a plan to transition Vivint’s wireless internet business from a 5Ghz
>>> to a 60Ghz-based network technology that provides higher data
>>> transmission speeds. The Company will continue to service its existing
>>> 5Ghz subscribers.
>>> As a result of this transition, the Company will discontinue the
>>> build-out of additional 5Ghz networks and the installation of new 5Ghz
>>> customers.
>>> Vivint expects the shift to the new technology will begin with a set
>>> of 60Ghz test installations in 2016. During the three months ended
>>> September 30, 2015, the Company recorded wireless internet-related
>>> restructuring and asset impairment charges totaling $58.0 million.
>>> These charges included
>>> $52.1 million of asset impairment charges related to write downs of
>>> network assets, subscriber acquisition costs, certain intellectual
>>> property and goodwill. The $58 million charge also included $5.9
>>> million in restructuring costs related to employee severance,
>>> termination benefits and the write offs of certain vendor contracts.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://s2.q4cdn.com/226156452/files/doc_financials/quarter/Q32015/APX-
>>> Group-3rd-Quarter-2015-Earnings-Release-final.pdf
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 11:30 AM
>>> To: Animal Farm <af@afmug.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starry Internet - Ex Aereo WISP - Announced
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> BFM Sterling BFM
>>>
>>> On Jan 28, 2016 11:15 AM, "Sterling Jacobson" <sterl...@avative.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Lol!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Boston.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I can’t see how this service is going to MIMO it’s way around all the
>>> corners and buildings downtown to get at the window CPE’s at those
>>> higher frequencies.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Maybe it’s magic, I don’t know.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 11:08 AM
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starry Internet - Ex Aereo WISP - Announced
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Shall we start a pool, or maybe 7 of them?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Launch date.
>>>
>>> First customers installed.
>>>
>>> First news report of really unhappy customers.
>>>
>>> First press release that they are making changes to the product.
>>>
>>> Date CEO is fired.
>>>
>>> Date Company shuts down operation for re-tooling.
>>>
>>> Date Assets acquired by another company.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Paul McCall
>>>
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 11:04 AM
>>>
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starry Internet - Ex Aereo WISP - Announced
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The real play here is probably OPM, taking big $$ salaries until it
>>> blows up J
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 11:54 AM
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starry Internet - Ex Aereo WISP - Announced
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> That article almost makes you think the fancy router is the real play
>>> here.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Also, in case it wasn’t already posted, here is the FCC application:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/els/reports/442_Print.cfm?mode=current&appl
>>> ication_seq=69226&license_seq=69930
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Travis Johnson
>>>
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 10:37 AM
>>>
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starry Internet - Ex Aereo WISP - Announced
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.xconomy.com/new-york/2016/01/28/kanojia-returns-with-a-star
>>> ry-plan-for-wireless-internet-smart-homes/
>>>
>>> On 1/28/2016 9:13 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>>
>>> Also they filed an experimental application with the FCC. So does
>>> that mean they can’t charge users?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Ken Hohhof
>>>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 12:53 PM
>>>
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starry Internet - Ex Aereo WISP - Announced
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I’m not sure licensed band equipment needs equipment approval filed
>>> with the FCC.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Keefe John
>>>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 12:16 PM
>>>
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starry Internet - Ex Aereo WISP - Announced
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> are they making this equipment or someone else? We should see
>>> something on the FCC website...
>>>
>>> On 1/27/2016 12:14 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>>
>>> 38 GHz I think. It was discussed in another thread.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 1:14 PM, Keefe John <keefe...@ethoplex.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> what band are they using?
>>>
>>> On 1/27/2016 12:05 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>>>
>>> "That said, it comes with a 3.6-inch touchscreen and runs on Android,
>>> going above and beyond simply facilitating a connection. Starry
>>> Station includes software called the Internet Health Score, which is
>>> constantly monitoring the connection and doing speed tests powered by
>>> Ookla."
>>>
>>> Oh FFS.
>>>
>>> This shit is such a game to these people.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 11:25 AM, Gino Villarini <ginovi...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Here you go…
>>>
>>>
>>> http://techcrunch.com/2016/01/27/starry-internet-is-aereo-founder-chet
>>> -kanojias-latest-salvo-in-the-war-on-isps/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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