I remember using metacrawler in college (1997-2000ish).  It searched the other 
7? 8? big "search engines" at the time.  What was the biggie back then?  
webcrawler?  I had a blackberry storm 2005-2006ish....I believe that was at the 
same time as of just prior to the iphone.   Things were just barely starting to 
get rolling.  I mean barely...that thing barely worked.

But...some of the innovation would have happened without Apple I think.  But 
Apple has made the products really soar - with their marketing, their 
interface, etc.

BTW - I don't own anything Apple.  I did win an Apple Ipad from FISPA but my 
girlfriend has pretty much made it hers.
: /

Good to see you post Travis :)

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Travis Johnson 
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Sent: Monday, February 01, 2016 11:36 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAD day


  I would use Yahoo or Bing or any other search engine. Nothing would change if 
Google went away tomorrow. 

  Blackberries and Android wouldn't even exist if Apple hadn't created the 
first iPhone. Same with tablets... look how many people tried tablets before 
Apple, and they all failed.

  I purchased a Macbook for my daughter headed to college 5 years ago. She used 
that laptop literally every day, for over 5 years. She graduated with two 
Bachelor's degrees... using that same laptop. Every paper, thousands of emails, 
etc... and she has never had a single issue... no viruses, no hardware issues, 
no software issues. Never a single issue. No OS reload, no malware scanners, 
nothing. It just works. Just like all the rest of Apple's products... they just 
work.

  Travis



  On 2/1/2016 10:28 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

    The world's most popular site and you don't think the world would change?  
Really???

    Apple is gone.  People buy Blackberries and Android.  Tablets probably 
won't exist.  Mp3 players would probably have come to fruition without them.  
What else do they have?

    Josh Luthman
    Office: 937-552-2340
    Direct: 937-552-2343
    1100 Wayne St
    Suite 1337
    Troy, OH 45373

    On Feb 2, 2016 12:22 AM, "Travis Johnson" <t...@ida.net> wrote:

      At least Apple makes products... products that literally changed the 
computing world, the phone world, the retail world, created apps, and the music 
world. Google created a search engine (actually copying Yahoo, Webcrawler, 
Altavista and several others at the time). They aren't a "product". They don't 
"sell" anything. They are a webpage, just like Facebook.

      Imagine your life without Google or Facebook. NOTHING CHANGES. 

      Yes, they built a better mousetrap using their intelligence and hard 
work... but they aren't "inventors". They didn't create anything new or 
groundbreaking.

      Travis


      On 2/1/2016 10:09 PM, Colin Stanners wrote:

        I'd much rather Google / Alphabet Inc. be in that position than Apple 
with their overpriced yet restricted / non-upgradable / crappy consumer 
electronics.


        Google is making themselves the curator of access to the world's 
information and communications. When you consider the value of those, it's not 
just the most valuable company in matters of money. The founders had incredible 
foresight in addition to their intelligence and hard work.



        On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 10:55 PM, Travis Johnson <t...@ida.net> wrote:

          
http://www.ibtimes.com/alphabet-inc-goog-surpasses-apple-inc-aapl-become-worlds-most-valuable-public-company-2289113

          "The world isn't run by weapons anymore, or energy, or money. It's 
run by little ones and zeroes, little bits of data. It's all just electrons."
          ~ Cosmo (Sneakers 1992)

          Literally, a one page website for a company that is less than 19 
years old is now the most valuable company in the world. :(

          Travis







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