Yup. I had a Handspring Visor back in the pre-smartphone era. Then I had a Palm Treo, and eventually a Palm Pre. Those were all great machines in the day. They got dated, and I moved on.

Twenty years from now might be very interesting, or very boring. Hope I'm still around to find out.

bp
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On 2/2/2016 9:34 AM, Sam Kirsch wrote:
Tablets would most certainly be around, companies started to try and make them in the 1980s. MP3 players too. All these things existed well before the iPod and the iPhone, and multiple companies had been working on them already for decades. These things are all just glorified PDA's, the Palm Pilot I had in 1998 pretty must disproves any "X wouldn't be around without Y company" Technology is technology and progress is progress... there's nothing groundbreaking here about Apple AT ALL. My first couple PDA's had WiFi and GPS and there was definitely a Palm Pilot PDA/Phone combo out around the time Blackberry's started to appear a lot more, this is all before the iPhone.... it may be just before or around when the iPod first came out though. To think that technology wouldn't have made that leap to full modern smartphones and tablets on its own without the likes of Steve Jobs is just laughable.
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------ Original Message ------
From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: 2/2/2016 12:28:15 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAD day

The world's most popular site and you don't think the world would change? Really???

Apple is gone. People buy Blackberries and Android. Tablets probably won't exist. Mp3 players would probably have come to fruition without them. What else do they have?

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On Feb 2, 2016 12:22 AM, "Travis Johnson" <t...@ida.net <mailto:t...@ida.net>> wrote:

    At least Apple makes products... products that literally changed
    the computing world, the phone world, the retail world, created
    apps, and the music world. Google created a search engine
    (actually copying Yahoo, Webcrawler, Altavista and several others
    at the time). They aren't a "product". They don't "sell"
    anything. They are a webpage, just like Facebook.

    Imagine your life without Google or Facebook. NOTHING CHANGES.

    Yes, they built a better mousetrap using their intelligence and
    hard work... but they aren't "inventors". They didn't create
    anything new or groundbreaking.

    Travis

    On 2/1/2016 10:09 PM, Colin Stanners wrote:
    I'd much rather Google / Alphabet Inc. be in that position than
    Apple with their overpriced yet restricted / non-upgradable /
    crappy consumer electronics.

    Google is making themselves the curator of access to the world's
    information and communications. When you consider the value of
    those, it's not just the most valuable company in matters of
    money. The founders had incredible foresight in addition to
    their intelligence and hard work.

    On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 10:55 PM, Travis Johnson <t...@ida.net
    <mailto:t...@ida.net>> wrote:

        
http://www.ibtimes.com/alphabet-inc-goog-surpasses-apple-inc-aapl-become-worlds-most-valuable-public-company-2289113

        "The world isn't run by weapons anymore, or energy, or
        money. It's run by little ones and zeroes, little bits of
        data. It's all just electrons."
        ~ Cosmo (Sneakers 1992)

        Literally, a one page website for a company that is less
        than 19 years old is now the most valuable company in the
        world. :(

        Travis




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