I think Mimosa said at one point they were adding a flexible non-synced
mode... but I don't know if that ever happened or not, and I could be
completely wrong, but as far as I can remember, when I set ours up, there
was no non-synced option. They are also supposed to be adding ptmp to the
B5c, if I remember correctly.

There are definitely some advantages to the ePMP (being less than half the
price, for one)... but a B5c is capable of a lot higher throughput and has
some nice features. one of the best things about using ePMP for PTP links
is that we can just use the same radios for everything, so we always have
plenty on hand.

On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 2:27 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
wrote:

> B5c is ptp sync (only?) and ePMP is ptp and ptmp sync or not, but I wanted
> to answer the last question at least.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 3:23 PM, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> But you can't use sync in ePTP mode... here's what I get pinging across a
>> PTP link with 2.5ms frames, with an average of around 5mbps going across
>> it. Testing between the Mikrotiks at each end, I can average around 80mbps
>> on a 20mhz channel.
>>
>>     0 10.1.27.25                                 56  64 10ms
>>     1 10.1.27.25                                 56  64 9ms
>>     2 10.1.27.25                                 56  64 6ms
>>     3 10.1.27.25                                 56  64 8ms
>>     4 10.1.27.25                                 56  64 8ms
>>     5 10.1.27.25                                 56  64 13ms
>>     6 10.1.27.25                                 56  64 8ms
>>     7 10.1.27.25                                 56  64 7ms
>>     8 10.1.27.25                                 56  64 11ms
>>     9 10.1.27.25                                 56  64 8ms
>>    10 10.1.27.25                                 56  64 9ms
>>     sent=11 received=11 packet-loss=0% min-rtt=6ms avg-rtt=8ms
>> max-rtt=13ms
>>
>> I wouldn't really put them in the same class as a B5c... the B5c is
>> capable of a lot more throughput and has some nice gimmicks like being able
>> to run two separate channels and make changes without taking the link
>> down... but latency isn't too much different (actually a lot better in ePTP
>> mode).
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 2:05 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Latency in 2.5ms frames from router through AP to SM (16 subs) doing
>>> 7-9mbps
>>>
>>> > ping 172.16.10.178
>>> 172.16.10.178 64 byte ping: ttl=64 time=14 ms
>>> 172.16.10.178 64 byte ping: ttl=64 time=10 ms
>>> 172.16.10.178 64 byte ping: ttl=64 time=12 ms
>>> 172.16.10.178 64 byte ping: ttl=64 time=12 ms
>>> 172.16.10.178 64 byte ping: ttl=64 time=10 ms
>>> 172.16.10.178 64 byte ping: ttl=64 time=11 ms
>>> 172.16.10.178 64 byte ping: ttl=64 time=11 ms
>>> 172.16.10.178 64 byte ping: ttl=64 time=11 ms
>>> 172.16.10.178 64 byte ping: ttl=64 time=11 ms
>>> 172.16.10.178 64 byte ping: ttl=64 time=11 ms
>>>
>>> 62x15 mbps speed test in flexible mode
>>>
>>> Haven't used a B5c and that's a ptp product...if you do ePTP mode on
>>> ePMP product you get ~1ms
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 2:55 PM, Matt <matt.mailingli...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> What kind of luck are people having with the ePMP PTP using GPS?
>>>> Throughput and latency?  How do they compare to the Mimosa B5c?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

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