Yes.  Sigh.

But read this review which says 2 GB of RAM is limiting even for web browsing 
given the demands of modern websites:
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/01/review-hp-improves-its-200-laptop-a-lot-but-its-still-a-200-laptop/

And computers seem to be going away, people expect to do all this stuff on 
their phones.  Of course most bandwidth is now used for video, and people are 
hooking up smart TVs and other dedicated video streaming devices.

I really hate it that people buy a Roku or Apple TV or streaming stick and 
connect it via WiFi despite it being 2 feet from their router.  I have a Roku 2 
and it’s connected with an Ethernet cable even though the router is in another 
room.  If people are spending so much time and money watching video over the 
Internet and complaining their Internet isn’t fast enough, why not give it the 
best chance and bypass WiFi with a $5 cable?


From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: Friday, February 05, 2016 11:15 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 100Gbps

GOING to expect?  Have you not been dealing with customers' 802.11b Linksys 
routers not pulling 25 meg on their Windows 98 PC?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 12:06 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:

  Kind of scary when you realize SATA-3.0 transfer rate is 6 Gbps, SAS-3 is 12 
Gbps, SATA-3.2 is 16 Gbps.  And people are going to expect they can run a 
speedtest from their iPad or Android with a low power CPU, on their dodgy WiFi, 
and complain if they don't get the advertised Internet speed.


  -----Original Message----- From: Nate Burke
  Sent: Friday, February 05, 2016 10:55 AM 

  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 100Gbps

  I have mixed feelings on it, I think that if you're pushing the
  envelope, then you should pay for it.  But as the market meets demand,
  prices should come down.  Remember back when 10/100 switches were
  $1000?  Now, you can get a 24 Port 1G switch with 10G uplinks for, what,
  $400?  In another 10 years, 100G will probably be the same.  Pickup a 24
  Port 100G switch with 1TB uplinks for $200.

  Although at the same time, Throwing more Bandwidth at the problem just
  makes for sloppier code.  Average webpage loads are now, what 5-6mb, for
  really no more content.  Things used to be efficient, as it was the
  programs responsibility for performance,  Now it's the clients
  responsibility if things are slow (upgrade your PC, upgrade your internet)

  https://xkcd.com/1605/

  On 2/5/2016 10:34 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:

    You tell them and they'll tell you how your capital expenses don't matter.
    In 1995 they decided that internet should be free and they'll never stop 
believing it.

    On 2/5/2016 10:04 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

      I cringe when people portray multi gigabit bandwidth as costing pennies, 
as if the only cost is the fiber. Yeah, until you have to route those packets, 
rather than just transporting a beam of light.


      -----Original Message----- From: Faisal Imtiaz
      Sent: Friday, February 05, 2016 8:57 AM
      To: af@afmug.com
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 100Gbps

      It's not un-common to do 100Gpbs as follows:-
        Bonding 10x 10G circuits
        Bonding a combination of 40G circuits.

      providing 100G switched transport is easy.
      Having a router, to do 100G transport is not,
      Expect to pay approx $100k for a router (loaded ready to go, on the 
2ndary markets)

      Regards.

      Faisal Imtiaz
      Snappy Internet & Telecom
      7266 SW 48 Street
      Miami, FL 33155
      Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

      Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

      ----- Original Message -----

        From: "Sterling Jacobson" <sterl...@avative.net>
        To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
        Sent: Friday, February 5, 2016 1:01:09 AM
        Subject: [AFMUG] 100Gbps



        So... Let's just say, for a minute, that I could sell Adobe a 100Gbps 
line.

        What would that be priced at?

        I think I can do it technically with a pair of fiber I can get end to 
end.

        Are their LD optics at 100Gbps yet?

        Or are we still talking dense wave multiplexing?







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