GOING to expect?  Have you not been dealing with customers' 802.11b Linksys
routers not pulling 25 meg on their Windows 98 PC?


Josh Luthman
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On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 12:06 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:

> Kind of scary when you realize SATA-3.0 transfer rate is 6 Gbps, SAS-3 is
> 12 Gbps, SATA-3.2 is 16 Gbps.  And people are going to expect they can run
> a speedtest from their iPad or Android with a low power CPU, on their dodgy
> WiFi, and complain if they don't get the advertised Internet speed.
>
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Nate Burke
> Sent: Friday, February 05, 2016 10:55 AM
>
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 100Gbps
>
> I have mixed feelings on it, I think that if you're pushing the
> envelope, then you should pay for it.  But as the market meets demand,
> prices should come down.  Remember back when 10/100 switches were
> $1000?  Now, you can get a 24 Port 1G switch with 10G uplinks for, what,
> $400?  In another 10 years, 100G will probably be the same.  Pickup a 24
> Port 100G switch with 1TB uplinks for $200.
>
> Although at the same time, Throwing more Bandwidth at the problem just
> makes for sloppier code.  Average webpage loads are now, what 5-6mb, for
> really no more content.  Things used to be efficient, as it was the
> programs responsibility for performance,  Now it's the clients
> responsibility if things are slow (upgrade your PC, upgrade your internet)
>
> https://xkcd.com/1605/
>
> On 2/5/2016 10:34 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
>
>> You tell them and they'll tell you how your capital expenses don't matter.
>> In 1995 they decided that internet should be free and they'll never stop
>> believing it.
>>
>> On 2/5/2016 10:04 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>
>>> I cringe when people portray multi gigabit bandwidth as costing pennies,
>>> as if the only cost is the fiber. Yeah, until you have to route those
>>> packets, rather than just transporting a beam of light.
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Faisal Imtiaz
>>> Sent: Friday, February 05, 2016 8:57 AM
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 100Gbps
>>>
>>> It's not un-common to do 100Gpbs as follows:-
>>>   Bonding 10x 10G circuits
>>>   Bonding a combination of 40G circuits.
>>>
>>> providing 100G switched transport is easy.
>>> Having a router, to do 100G transport is not,
>>> Expect to pay approx $100k for a router (loaded ready to go, on the
>>> 2ndary markets)
>>>
>>> Regards.
>>>
>>> Faisal Imtiaz
>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>>> Miami, FL 33155
>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>>>
>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>>> From: "Sterling Jacobson" <sterl...@avative.net>
>>>> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>>>> Sent: Friday, February 5, 2016 1:01:09 AM
>>>> Subject: [AFMUG] 100Gbps
>>>>
>>>
>>> So... Let's just say, for a minute, that I could sell Adobe a 100Gbps
>>>> line.
>>>>
>>>> What would that be priced at?
>>>>
>>>> I think I can do it technically with a pair of fiber I can get end to
>>>> end.
>>>>
>>>> Are their LD optics at 100Gbps yet?
>>>>
>>>> Or are we still talking dense wave multiplexing?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>

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